>> like our friend nora ephron, in a way, like my friend susanna moore, in a way, women who are a bit older than i, but who all through their lives when they had our vital, vibrant, sexy, smart, interesting important opinionated women like i hope my comairk is. >> rose: like she is. and the first person narration is because something you had not used before and something some people say is very difficult to do, because you are at center stage always. >> well, and exactly. and therefore your character and my character admits she did this terrible thing when she was young, the likability of that person telling a story becomes more important, and risky. >> rose: the likability becomes more important for telling the story because they will be turned off. >> correct, correct. i thought it was important for -- to this to be about a secret and living a life with this secret and finding out the truth about the secret, that that was important to tell from that fern feeling that lifelong anxiety, from her point of view, that's why i chose it to be first person. >> rose: what she says on page 1,