and i didn't see zuccotti coming. i was writing out of a kind of despair, for all of the reasons that i said. >> why did you take hope from that? because after you'd been down there? you subsequently write that "by the end, even the most dedicated of the occupiers in zuccotti park burned out." >> yeah. >> "they lost control of the park. the arrival in cold weather of individual tents, along with the numerous street people with mental impairment and addictions," that you're nothing if not honest in what you write, even about those people you support, "tore apart the community. drug use as well as assaults and altercations became common." so how is that square with what you said earlier that the occupy movement gave us a blueprint for how to fight back? >> because this is the trajectory of all movements. you know, it's not a linear progression upwards. and the civil rights movement is a perfect example of that. all sorts of failures, whether it's in albany, mississippi or anywhere else. you know, there were all sorts of

michael levin ten who's the founder of the occupied wall street journal it was even distributed among zuccotti when it first started and he told me you know this movement never was really about a campaign that was more a symbol to try to get the attention from the establishment to really pay attention to the message and it really did shift the dialogue in this nation and he said now you know the battle is in the big isn't about between the. occupiers and the police and that's where they really need to shift it toward what is their movement really about and how are they going to strategize to get there and speaking of the police i mean what we've seen throughout these protest is a really harsh crackdown by police you know we've seen images of baton and pepper spray but was there any police resistance this time around before we got there on saturday that some of the occupiers tried to put up a tent in franklin square park and there is a strict curfew at night and so the police were there in full force the heads were cracked open and there was an arrest after that though it was pretty peaceful as

officers hitting people with baton especially back in those early weeks of occupy wall street when zuccotti park was occupied. and it seemed strange for many people seeing this that this behavior could be warranted and that it was legal going turns out it wasn't a new study by researchers and researchers at n.y.u. and fordham law schools have found there was in fact a systemic effort by police to suppress those protests even when the protestors were following the laws and being peaceful the report states that in many instances police have responded aggressively to nonviolent protests and have escalated situations through arbitrary or mis applications of the law and excessive police presence or the use of unwarranted force it goes on to say that the police response has in some cases and considered it cumulatively undermined basic assembly and expression freedoms the freedoms of course guaranteed in the constitution and yet in total there are one hundred thirty incidents of excessive force and in terms of how many of these officers have faced disciplinary action. just one officer of the offic

it's morphed into something much worse involving violence, occupy wall street encampment down at zuccottire where a could go at night because they were being lowested. >> brian: no one reports that. >> people were quiet about that. there is a videotape you can see where the nypd caught some of these people taking an entire bucket of human waste and pouring into an atm vestibule. how does that help someone? this doesn't make any sense. >> brian: how do you feel about people who equate the occupy movement with the tea party? >> that's a completely false equation. go to tea party gatherings and i've spoken at two of them. they're very peaceful. they don't engage in violence. you don't see people -- when they go to the bathroom, they use actual plopping, not the streets. then these people clean up after themselves. a lot of these occupy locations turned into completely trash filled crime scene. >> brian: i know they're trying it get a point and going to philadelphia on the fourth of july, but i think it's tasteless and people associated with this movement try to win other americans over by go

at least one protester's was injured in clashes with police at new york city's zuccotti park wednesdaying a rally celebrating the 100th birthday of the late legendary folk singer songwriter woody guthrie. hundreds of occupy wall street protesters gathered at the park yesterday and police reportedly began shoving people onto the sidewalk. the protesters marched for six days from the liberty bell in pennsylvania during the rally protesters saying is legendary folk ballad "this land is your land." those are some of the headlines. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. commemorations are being held across the country this year to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of one of the country's greatest songwriters, woody guthrie. born on july 14, 1912, and okemah, oklahoma, he wrote hundreds of folk songs including this land is your land, pastors aplenty, pretty boy floyd, and "the rangers command." russelters broke on us in the dead ou

. >> he used to go down to zuccotti park. >> mr.fight. >> coming up, the recovery in housing, we'll talk to unwf the men who lent his name to the widely watched case shiller home price index, chip case, is going to join us. >>> welcome back to "squawk box." the data suggests the u.s. housing market may be gaining a bit of traction. joining us is chip case, professor emeritus at wells college, co-founder of the widely followed s&p case-shiller home price index. thank you for joining us, chip. you saw mr. bernanke's remarks earlier this week, called the housing recovery "modest." is that an appropriate way to categorize where we are? >> yeah, it is. it's modest in the sense that it's been a really rough ride. we started, we start every peak it seems at about 2.25 million home sales, i mean starts, and if you go back to the january of '06, it was 2.3 million. it fell to 400,000. that's a wipeout of an industry, and so it's back, the housing starts are back. it's turned from a head wind into a tailwind for the economy, almost overnight,