ally bank and p.r. keeps people in the know soto's ally customers can talk to a real person any time of day or night learn more at ally bank dot com well as it turns out ally bank has among other things spend quite a bit of money lobbying against the creation of what is now the consumer financial protection bureau so perhaps it would be no surprise then that when planet money host adam davidson had the head of the consumer financial protection bureau elizabeth warren on for an interview things got heated take a listen this crisis will not be over until the american family begins to recover this crisis does not exist and if you're on the right that's the no it is not my crisis that is america's crisis if people cannot pay their credit card bills if you're not paying their mortgages use on this issue and this of course is a snippet from the fifteen plus minute interview and to delve deeper into the questionable practices of adam davidson and the planet money team i was joined earlier by marc ams and yasha levine founders of the web site shame which stands for shame the hacks that abused media folks and i started out by asking mark why th

ally bank and p.r. keeps people in the know so doe's ally customers can talk to a real person any time of day or night learn more at ally bank dot com so who exactly is ally bank well it turns out among other things the company has spent quite a bit of money lobbying against the creation of what is now the consumer financial protection bureau so maybe it will come in no surprise then that when planet money host adam davidson had the head of the c.f.p. be elizabeth warren on for an interview things got a little heated take a listen this crisis will not be over until the american family begins to recover this crisis does not exist and if you're in the right that's the no it's not my crisis that is america's crisis if people cannot pay their credit card bills if you're not paying their mortgages remote views on this issue of this of course just a snippet from the fifteen plus minute interview but we do want to talk today with a journalist who has covered it what's going on here foster kaymer writes for the new york observer. foster you are in our new york studio and i know you recently wrote a piece for the observer breaking down the different aspects of this controve