arthur delaney e is with us from huffington post on the new ipad appear huffington period. go to the calls, arthur, you were saying during the break, so they get this big salary, the pension. they get the health benefits but maybe the real pay-off comes had they leave congress. >> this is the biggest. >> of course they take this stuff with them. right? but then they have an open door to big bucks. right? >> right. like i was telling you, i am not working on a follow-up story: my quest for the only poor former member of congress. so far, i haven't found him. but the idea is -- >> you are not going to. >> nobody who comes to congress and resigns or is voted out becomes poor. you can become a lobbyist or a consultant, which is the same as a lobbyist only you don't have to register is the narrow definition of the law. but basically, members of congress from the moment they get here, they are too big to fail. >> and i mean if you become a lobbyist, you are talking not $175,000. you are talking about what? >> if you are an influential committee chairman or long-serving senator, yo