mentioning henry david thoreau that is pivotal of my thinking he howled the idea the business of living but to you went out offense civil disobedience and he said here there is no state. i want to look inside myself. i tried to do that increasingly everyday here it is acting with my neighbor taking my alive back to the extent possible. do not do with the state. nature ago into businesses privatizing government service. we're going to the unprecedented period of state control of our lives. you just have to say no. do not smarter yourself yourself, that would be reckless. >> host: does that mean you are living off a grid. >> i am here. [laughter] i cannot tell anyone what to do go private. >> i don't mean to misrepresent but it is more theoretical and historical with the underpinning and the other buck right now is more the house to. to psychologically prepare pre-who they're living in a police state. >> you must ask yourself but three is not something you can take for granted but you 1/2 to have the art of being. >> and who is chadwick? >> a man in jail for many years. even though he com

henry david thoreau sense of the word. he said the government that governs best is the one that governs least. and the least government, no government. so i have that kind of -- what would be called by some, most libertarians i know, if they were in power and you were able to establish the minimal government that they wanted in power, i would hang up my credentials, go in my backyard, and grow tomatoes for the rest of my life and not go to the grocery store and buy the tomatoes at the state is making me too busy to grow. i would love that. so i don't have much of an argument with most libertarians. i would love to see their government, if they saw their government that would not see me again. >> wendy mcelroy is the author of "the art of being free." in the back of this book is an invitation. >> the invitation is to a club, something am very excited about. if you go to the site, you will find a community of people. a fledgling community of people like me and jeff tucker who are trying to of find out how to live liberty. we

next one is from henry david thoreau. he's an old american author and poet. another quote from thoreau. he said, "i hate when women check out my crotch. i'm like hello, 'my eyes are up here.'" [ laughter ] >> steve: really? >> jimmy: i don't know man. >> steve: did you check these? >> jimmy: that's what i'm saying. i don't know if these are -- what he said. well, here's a another one. next quote is from one of my favorite '80s movie characters, robocop. he was part man, part machine. he was the coolest. he said, "excuse me, i have to go. somewhere there is a crime happening." he is a pro. >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: here's another robo cop quote. it said, "hey, everyone. i'd like to you meet my brother, mitt romney." [ laughter ] could be true. they're both from michigan. >> steve: yeah. they're both michigan. i guess. both robots. >> jimmy: right. yeah. here is a quote here. this is from cicero. he's an ancient roman philosopher. he said, "no sane man will dance." apparently, he's not into dancing. [ light laughter ] >> steve: apparently not. >> jimmy: here's

you see over the end try way where the athletes go, work, and train, there's a quotation from henry david thoreau which reads "you cannot dream yourself into a character, but you must hammer and forge yourself into one." anyone who wants it tell you that excellence, winning new ideas, saving your country, preserving traditional values is going to be easy is lying to you. it's going to be worthwhile, every bit as worthwhile as it is for the athlete that stands on the podium at the olympics, and what i'd like to talk to you tonight bit what that struggle is. the struggle i'll contend to you today is a struggle of whether you're going to choose to worry about the spirit or you're going to worry about the material. what do i mean by that? i think if you look through american history, you'll see that every 80 years or so the american people have had a choice to make. are they going to strive for and fight for freedom, or are they going to live by material comforts and choose that option? each time in the past, in those 80 year spans, the american people have chose p to fight, to choose the spirit over

as a libertarian i'm a big fan of certain aspects of henry david thoreau's life certainly has disobedience is vastly important and talks about how you should simplify, simplify, simplify your life and dressing in black certainly does that. c-span: when did you start only wearing black? >> guest: like i said it evolves over time but you know i think the point of no return probably was about 15 years ago, 12 years ago something like that. c-span: how often do people bring it up to you? >> guest: is a little tiresome and if i had more energy i would probably call you out right now. c-span: what is the biggest, most important thing about being a libertarian to you? >> guest: you know i think well gosh, like you said the biggest thing. the biggest thing is to live your life and part of the context of the declaration of independence or the pretext is that life is too important to spend it on politics. we didn't win the cold war and destroy east germany so that finally americans in the 21st century would be free to go to more political rallies or organize block parties or spying on each other. to