i. singh and hernandez went to the right. -- esein. as officer carrasco and heppler went left and saw a body lying prone at the end of the hallway. they saw the body was drenched in blood, and the victim was still breathing. based on his prior experience as a paramedic, officer carrasco knew they needed to be rescued immediately if there was to be any chance of the person surviving. officer carrasco told heppler i will pull her out. with complete disregard for his own safety, he ground the bleeding person by the feet and began to drag her to safety. it was later determined that the stick them was the suspect 73- year-old mother who had been stabbed through the neck. he pulled the woman passed officer heppler and a door opens at the end of the hallway. it was later determined to be the suspect's sister and ran hysterically across the hallway. at this time, officer heppler repeated san francisco police department, come out. hearing the commotion from the other side of the hallway, officer heisen and hernandez were standing. suddenly, fro

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i just talked to the white house -- >> mr. singh, i understand that and i think what you're saying is very important. >> we are asking the president to make a statement and come out and create awareness that -- >> so mr. singh, i imagine he can't hear me. i think what he's saying is very important but i want to stick to this particular incident because we don't know if it has anything to do with that. >> the bottom line is we don't know who did it, why it happened. >> if he's still there, i would like to speak to him about where he is because he is the chairman of the council of religion and education. they contacted him to get in touch with the people who are inside, the family members. that's why we're speaking to him and he is contacting those family members trying to get them information and trying to help out. what he is saying -- i just want to break this down for our viewers because there's so much information going on. this guawara is this large lunch, 300 to 400 members he said shows up at this temple usually on a sunday mo

. >> yeah, absolutely and that was a question i had for mr. singhns for example, where the bodies have to be buried within 24 hours. autopsies are not permitted. i'm curious, obviously, the sikh community now has the responsibility of burying six members of the community includiinclude ing one priest. how do you balance that with the needs of the criminal investigation for example? >> we don't have that kind of restrictions in our faith. there are very few restrictions. we are founder of our faith. one thing which he taught us, never to believe in all kinds of rituals or dogmas or superstitions. there no superstition about the body. if something needs to be investigated, then it will be fine. and we committed our bodies and they will be a prayer, there will be a three-day prayer of the sikh scriptures and we will be in touch with the wisconsin community to find out when this is going to take place. but otherwise, it's just basically a -- simple ceremony of reading the prayers and singing god's praises and blessing the soul, the departed soul. >> oka

. >> we are certainly starting -- i was saying, bir singh the financial of facts downtown main street -- we are starting to see the financial a facts on downtown main street. repairing a lot of the damage down here after a number of the cars have been removed as the investigation continues. main street could be closed until the weekend, which is hurting area merchants. >> this is a well orchestrated, industrial ballet. >> crews continue their investigation into the trail of agreement that took the lives of -- train derailment that took the lives of elizabeth nass and rose mayr. they were being interviewed and that the engineer in trading was in control and traveling at 25 miles an hour at the time of the derailment. the only facts gathered so far came from the event recorders aboard the train. >> there was a break in the airline. what it was, i am not sure. but when that happens, that reaction goes to the emergency brake. >> crews continued to remove cars from the tracks and replace the damaged track with new. by noon, 18 of the 21 cars had been removed. the other 59 had been cleared,

and they returned fire i exchan killi him. >> amardeep singh i would like to bring you in.here is, of course, a lot of confusion about your community and so i want to ask you straightforward question. how do you define yourselves? what is a sikh. >> a sikhism is disciple at the end of the day, the definition of a sikh is a learner and disciple. and you know we have three core tenants for our daily lives. we believe in working hard and honestly and we are arres respecting our creator. and we believe in sharing our bounty with others and the third obligation is remember god in everything we do. i'm remembering god as a signifier of this obligation we wear the turbine as an external uniform. our turbine is a reminder to us of our obligation to stand for justice and be compassionate and loving in our interactions with people. >> and in the united states we use the number i've seen half a million does that sou right? and when did most ofhe community come? and how spread around the united states? terms of communities? >> the sikhs came to the country 100 years ago and there were

. >> i want to thank you for joining us, rajdeep singh. i know that you have to move bond. wanted to continue our coverage of the massacre at the sikh temple in wisconsin. we now know the name of the gun man. his name is wade michael page. he was in the military. accept each other but also appreciate each cbs reporting that he was in psychological operations at fort bliss and also for bragg in north carolina. since then, the details of his discharge or not clear. he joined the military in 1992, honorable discharge in 1998. we want to turn then now to jail noor. your family is sikh. but in the last few years, you did a report on the sikh community. >> absolutely. to be clear, is important to say that these things happen before 9/11, but since then, they have definitely picked up. it is important to understand the sikh to community, right no, friends and family i have talked to run the country, are deeply scared. my thoughts go up to the community in washington -- wisconsin, but it could've been anywhere. >> where are the largest sikh populations in the u.s.? >> california, n

thing. 3 (nats)the sights and sounds-- "i heard the like pop"are far too familiar for jatinder (jah- tinder) singher of the sikhhtemple of wisconsin, and the owner of harmony two grocery store at 38th and locust."i lost him you know hes always with me where i go he go with me"he's talking about his uncle dalbir (del-beer) singh, another member of the temple, who didn't die in the shooting rampage, but was shot and killed by a man who approached the two of them at the store late wednesday while the two were locking up."that's too much we don't want no more you know"it's a type of tragedy amardeep kalekaais also knows all too well."as a group our hearts just stop"kaleka lost his father when wade michael page killed six at the temple and critically injured three more beeore police shot him pnd page turned the gun on himself-- all about a week and a half before this recent shooting."it's difficult to &phear that because everything that happened to us had to do with violence in america and everything's aboot violence and hatred and you're just living and someone becomes a criminal against you" police..

"now their message is needed most.as this faithful community tries to heal.shammi singh: 12:58:54 "first i would like to send condolences.. praying for 3 policeman's speedy recovery." as they gather in maryland this sunday -- to pray - and eat...they can't help but feel painnfor their religious brothers and sisters in wisconsin.fearfully aware that this tragedy could've been a hate crime - an act of terrosim.jesse singh: 12:56:21 "it's too early to tell if it's a hate crime or if it was just a random act. i hope it was a random act."12:56:35 "whatever it was, it was a terrible tragedy."the shootings took place - just prior to the congregation's weekly service - similar to this one - called kirtan diwan (kirtan deevan) many of the women in children were gathered in the community kitchen - waiting - when the gunshots began.12:54:37 "incidents like this are always shocking."while they are often mistaken for muslims... sikh (seeks) only share some of the same customs. but today - many in maryland's muslim community are showing about violence gripping the y - country.dr. hasan jalisi: 13:03:00

i wanted to be with you now for more on this i want to bring in rajdeep singh director of law and policy at the sikh coalition welcome the show thanks for had a i'm sure this is a tough time for your community my condolences how how is the community kind of dealing with this i mean sikhs have been no stranger to hate crimes since nine eleven tragically is this just another one of the long lists i mean how are the handling it right at this point in time the focus of this sick community throughout the the world really is to bring comfort to the to the families of the victims including the law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line to defend our communities you know hate crimes aren't a post nine eleven phenomenon with respect to six the six migrated to the united states at the turn of the twentieth century and as early as one thousand and five six in oregon and washington state and in california were subjected to race riots and what we might today call hate crimes so it's not exclusively a post nine eleven phenomenon however since nine eleven there has been a perceptible in f

rajwant singh, thank you. >> thank you so much, don. ieally, really appreciate it. >> all right. >> god bless you. >> you as well. >>> you know, this is a very important story. we're going to keep following it this hour as news develops here. new information live from wisconsin with our ted rolands next. uh-oh. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> a candlelight vigil being held tonight in milwaukee, not far from where a gunman opened fire today inside a sikh temple. six people were killed. three others are in critical condition. the gunman believed to be killed as well. the latest from wisconsin hospital says the officer shot and killed the suspect described as a white man about 40 years old. let's talk now with cnn's ted rowlands live in wisconsin. ted, you're learning new information. what do you know? >> well, don, a couple things. first of all, we just watched a family walk out of the temple area w

i did mention this other victim in my story, perkash singh.oved here to town, eight weeks ago with his family, just 39 years old. who lost all his brothers by the time they turned 40. and had this strange premonition something was going to happen to him. and he was killed, gunned down. >> so many lives really forever changed, in addition to those lost. randi, appreciate that reporting. as randi mentioned, the temple's president was fatally wounded when his family says he tried to take down the shooter. he fought till his last breath for the temple and the people in it. his son joins me live. it's kind of a dumb question but how are you, your mom and your family doing today? >> i mean, no, not a dumb question. the grieving process is long and hard. i think many people need to kind of see it and witness it. it almost feels like everybody's joining us. >> does it feel really? we talked yesterday about how it doesn't feel real. >> that's the first thing they tell you, it feels like a bad dream. ere's a thing in our culture where we spread sufferin

singh, thank you very much. i appreciate you coming on.d the viewers, i don't have to say this. i'm being completely transparent here. you were on earlier, you couldn't hear me. i was not being rude to you. there are people saying we've got to get to a break, get to a press conference. there are time constraints here. i want you to know that. i'm glad you came on to clarify. i think the information you gave us was pivotal. that is what i was trying to get at earlier. you couldn't hear me, but you said it perfectly. there's a lot of ignorance about your religion. i think that's ignorance about your religion. >> and don, you might want to point out the reason why we wear turban is because we have long, unshown hair. we don't cut our hair, but we welcome anybody who is maybe not in full sikh, there are still part of the congregation, so the the turban is basically to cover our hair and it is a symbol of freedom and that's what sikhism stands for, freedom for all to progress in society and be equal partners, but unfortunately, because of the 9