ms. gilligan.very much appreciate faa's high-level prairies for safety and voluntary safety programs. we are very exciting to launch a program. however, we have met a sort of road block at the local faa level where i believe our local faa officials feel a mandate in the post cold an era if you will. i believe they may have a mandate from the oig to bring a more get-tough approach with enforcement and oval site -- oversight. it seems to be kind of dissident in our attempt to move forward to a more open-minded and implicit collaborative approach to safety. is sort of seems like the approach is more to shoot your wounded more than to bring them up and move forward towards safer cockpits. my passion is training and i think that's where the link comes from high level priorities to the cockpit is through training. my question is where would a guy like me begin to see if we can reshape the thinking on a local level because we can't seem to quite get it out of our local problem, the road block. >> i'm not