robinson. it's great to see you. thanks for being here. >> it's great to be here, rachel. >> birther donald trump attending the republican convention, being asked to do something very, very major. good idea, gene, do you think? >> i think it's a very, very major bad idea. you know, just, hey, who am i, right? so bring it on, but look, you know, people tuned in to the republican primary freak show, to the reality series, but they didn't vote for newt gingrich except in south carona. they didn't vote for herman cain. they didn't vote for michele bachmann. so what is the purpose of bringing newt back and certainly what is the purpose of bringing donald trump on to the stage except as some sort of court jester. this isn't supposed to be a shakespearean play, but romney is getting a little odd here. >> i mean, when i went back and looked at the debate tape today, i was struck by those debate audiences, obviously republican voters turning out for the 20 republican debates. and every audience, one after the other, just absolutely into it. there's nobody out there holding an applause sign. they were just rabidly into what was go