randall stevenson, who's the ceo of at&t, said technical solutions are, quote, nowhere near prime time. now, the report talks a lot about using various technologies to try to enable this spectrum sharing. is there -- i'm curious if you have any more reaction to the criticism of the technology, if you will. >> guest: yes. and by the way, um, randall stephenson, who is a great ceo, we absolutely agree with the comments that he's made both in his op-ed that came out beginning of june, and then he did a speech for about an hour or so right after that. but if you look at what he said, he said, one, that it's going to be six to eight years if you cleared and repack spectrum for them whether it's commercial or federal spectrum and that sharing technologies, device technologies that he talked about -- smart antennas, dsa, etc. -- would be five years or more. and they're looking for spectrum more immediately. and that was his call. we actually believe in what we put forward, that we're espog although we mention those technologies in the report, if you see, paul, in our recommendations, we don't