now, for ambassador rehman, there was a protracted period of time when the united states and pakistan -- [inaudible] that seems to have ended. friends and allies. that seems to have ended. sixty, i don't know, i think three out of four people in pakistan right now according to a pew public opinion poll consider the united states an enemy of pakistan. and millions of american people are asking the question, is pakistan friend or foe? what's the answer to that question? >> very quickly, i think pakistan and the united states have been through an extraordinarily difficult time over the last seven months. you know that the nato supply lines that ran through pakistan for 12 years were suspended. it was suspended not in a fit of pique, they were suspended because we had 24 soldiers killed at the border by nato and isaf forces. those were unlocked when an apology freed up both sides -- [inaudible] to prevent it from spiraling down. yes, you have talked about the pew polls, etc. but i think that it still is very strong will and commitment on both sides. and i can certainly speak for pakistan

as ambassador rehman outlined clearly, we have had no more clear allied fighter than pakistan. levels of cooperation across different programs also continue. i will let sherry speak for herself. >> thank you. very quickly, i think that in pakistan the view now is very clear and ambiguous -- and unambiguous -- not because we do not want to hurt al qaeda, but because, number one, the drone strikes now, we all acknowledge that the core of al qaeda has been eliminated. also, they now radicalize most of the population of where the strikes happen. i do not want to get into the specifics, but they add to the level of recruits of the fighting, what we are fighting against. the drones, the robotic -- it opens up all kinds of questions of what any other country does. our position is that this is a problem. no wonder that there is this you across the united states. i am not saying that this is because they have not assisted in the war against terror. the point is now they have diminishing returns. that is a very clear point. before we speak on interco strikes, there will be no compromise

and we have on teleconference ambassador sherry rehman who was unable to make it today because of a prior was kind enough and wanted to be here badly enough to agree to talk to us here. you can see her sitting back there. her in the television monitors around the rim. i want to begin this with a ". a recent article by dexter falcons in the new yorker published earlier this month. he writes after 11 years, nearly 2000 americans killed, 16,000 americans wounded, nearly $400 billion spent, nearly 12,000 afghan civilians dead since 2007, the war in afghanistan has come down to this. the united states is leading the, mission not accomplished. they have been abandoned or downgraded because they have not worked for there was no longer enough time to achieve them. do you agree with that assessment? >> with due respect, i do not agree. our people do not want to go to those dark days of civil war and also to dark days of taliban who ruled the country. now we have a strong military. we have a strong police force. we have a vibrant civil society. we have a very active media, with a liberty that you c

and we have on teleconference ambassador sherry rehman who was unable to make it today because of a prior commitment. she was kind enough and wanted to be here badly enough to agree to talk to us here. you can see her sitting back there. her in the television monitors around the rim. i want to begin this with a ". a recent article by dexter falcons in the new yorker published earlier this month. he writes after 11 years, nearly 2000 americans killed, 16,000 americans wounded, nearly $400 billion spent, nearly 12,000 afghan civilians dead since 2007, the war in afghanistan has come down to this. the united states is leading the, mission not accomplished. they have been abandoned or downgraded because they have not worked for there was no longer enough time to achieve them. do you agree with that assessment? >> with due respect, i do not agree. our people do not want to go to those dark days of civil war and also to dark days of taliban who ruled the country. now we have a strong military. we have a strong police force. we have a vibrant civil society. we have a very active media, with a li