so if we're looking at cal doj and f.b.i. seems there's a reason why it's not as fully detailed as we like and chief you mentioned we will have some data at the end of this quarter so should we ask -- >> no. in january we can give you the last quarter of 2012. >> so maybe we'll wait 'til january or ask earlier to see the actual data itself because i would like to see what our arrest data is. >> we could give it to you at the end of -- end of october. >> that would be cool. >> end of december probably. >> no. maybe give october for october. >> sure, if we can. >> that would be good. maybe a comparison of before and after any changes have been made or after this department bulletin, so october data and a month before october, to have a comparison of has the reporting changed or has the reporting changed. so maybe end of october, beginning of november? >> uh-huh. >> thank you. >> commissioner loftus. >> commissioner loftus: i just wanted to suggest throughout your process if you identify any obstacles, tej 2345 logical obstacles