it seems to me it is not their philosophical value. that is to say how good they are as jesus on nietzsche. it is also for marriage and shortcomings. but what i think is important is to listen for their historical values and i think that has nothing to do with what do they get nietzsche right or wrong. those kind of judgments matter with your judgments for another day and i think another book. but not for the historian who is interested in using these letters to listen as it were to people from the past, to listen to people's moral reasoning come to listen to people's longing into their path obligee's and fear -- pathology and year. that is played with these letters, listen and have people make sense of their moral world and not to add to the kid who is getting them right and wrong. and the duties i think of doing that is that we begin to understand how and why nietzsche goes from being an obscure figure in the 19th century germany to a pop icon in american intellectual life. if book sales are a measure of literary achievements, nietzs

so what if an idealist rampant anti-idealism philosopher. he understood that nietzsche was -- he tore down the absolutes. he tore down the foundations of our beliefs. but he didn't just leave it at that. he said that it is our job to come up with the images of the possible after the sprint this. royce understood if you turn nietzsche into that, you are missing the bow. you are not really for filling what nietzsche had called for what he envisioned. >> [inaudible question] >> wonderful. national tv wants to get this reference two i have a top reference for you. in the movie leading saddles, there is a character named howard johnson. he starts to make a pompous speech and said nietzsche says, and another character says -- [inaudible] they assume that nietzsche is so well-known that people would understand. >> no, that's exactly right. that is how we can know that nietzsche is so conventional. as i put it in an article, he is conventional iconoclasts. >> people know him and his image but they don't know much about what his ideas actually are? >

he just doesn't have philosophical interests. >> rose: we conclude this evening with a look at the implication of protests in the ddle east and the death are four americans, joining us lara logan of cbs news and time editor at large bobby ghosh. >> that's why what happens on friday at friday prayers is so critical because it is when those people pour out of the mosques after listening to those sermons, that is what is really going to determine how fast and how violently and quickly this spreads. you know, if the message in the mosques on friday is calm down and is one of moderation, then that could really help put an end to this. what we've seen in the past indices that that is probably not likely. it's far more likely that you're going to have people incited to more protest and more violent-- violence. >> and this is the fruit of in some ways sort of ironically the product of democracy. in the old days pew barak and his police would-- mubarak would vet what was said in a mosque. you couldn't go to a moss knick cairo and speak ou

christ wears the robe of a greek philosopher... and his beardless, youthful face bears more than a passing resemblance to pagan images of apollo. the first great churches were variations of the roman assembly hall known as a basilica, with a central nave often ending in a semicircular apse and side aisles screened by colonnades. santa sabina, finished in 432, is a particularly fine example of these simple but elegant early christian basilicas. the roman arch appears here in yet another form, springing directly from the column capitals. the insignia of the new christianized empire, whose capital is no longer rome but constantinople, are placed with perhaps unconscious symbolism atop the corinthian columns taken from a pagan building. once reviled and persecuted, christianity is triumphant. historians havargued about the causes of the fall of the roman empire ever since it happened, when saint augustine wrote that the empire had been part of god's divine plan for the furtherance of christianity through the world, that it had now fulf

>> when romney picked paul ryan, we were under the impression they wanted a philosophical debate. after the first 48 hours of that, i did not get the sense that the romney campaign was particularly invested in having a big debate about how austerity, the size of government, are making sacrifices today for long-term fiscal health, all the things we thought we going to get. >> it is about romney is really that pure? >> they're flailing at the moment. the comments toward egypt and libya in the last few days and before that talking about the chicago school strike and trying to pin that on obama suggests that romney has given up on may be making this about job creation or the economy as they have said all year. it does not seem to sustain the ryan debate over the question of the size of government. i think we thought it was supposed to be a sort of aesthetic distinction between the parties. it does not seem like it was part of a broader argument that, either over the course of that week in tampa or since then, that the obama campaign -- >> do think they took it as the reason to have a

>> you know, sanjay, this is a big philosophical issue. i don't anyone doesn't want to help the most in need. the there's no question about that. i don't think any republican or democrat would say we can't help these people. president obama and his health care law believes we can afford this, whatever he put into law. the republican platform so far on health care reform is we have to make duerr with less and those are -- there's no one right answer here. they're just two very different fills philosophical prices. >> thanks so much as always. >>> coming up, the world's first treatment for melanoma, a type of skin cancer. [ female announcer ] for everything your face has to face. face it with puffs facial tissues. unlike the leading regular tissue, puffs has soft, air-fluffed pillows for 40% more cushiony thickness. so you can always put your best face forward. face every day with puffs softness. has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the t

but that human desire to, you know, philosophical questions, to say the least, but, you know, what are we doing here? what does it all mean? and, of course, this brings us to another key identity question which is purpose and, you know, that's a big one. what do i do? no one in the right mind will be sitting in this hot tv studio suffering through lectures on religion if we weren't, we didn't have that instinct, that religious impulse, that, and we can dump the religious worth. we don't need that now but spiritual impulse, impulse towards inquiry about the nature and meaning of life. check that out. see if that isn't something that will see you throughout the semester. the other thing, okay, we got belief. that's in the identity part - you know, all those questions about purpose and meaning and identity. so, we got the identity part in there and the belief part but now we link right into the behavior. what else do religions all do? those of you who are in religious traditions, it talks about relationship. how are we to relate to the world around us? how are we to relate to each other?

i would think so because we've gotten down to certain kind of philosophical constructs much of the argument has been around the question of taxation for example is it fair to tax the middle class inappropriately and not tax the top one percent of the people with the most money and i think what democrats have been saying is let's be fair across the board and less provide the kind of taxation that everybody can be comfortable with where you tax those at the very top at least somewhere close to the same rate as your tax in those in the middle and those at the bottom the republicans seemingly will not by that i mean so that's a big issue plus the philosophical issue some people believe that government really shouldn't do a great deal for the in the digital citizen and the in the taxpayer and that all of the programs that we call safety net they are being cut. wiped out you know there are times when all we hear about from the other side is cut cut cut cut off all you do is cut cut cut all you get is bla bla bla. and then the leave it will be across the people of this great nation and that does n

commercial galleries around union square, and it is because of their core mission, to increase social, philosophical, and spiritual change my isolated individuals and communities. >> it gives a statement, the idea that a significant art of any kind, in any discipline, creates change. >> it is philosophy that attracted david linger to mount a show at meridian. >> you want to feel like your work this summer that it can do some good. i felt like at meridian, it could do some good. we did not even talk about price until the day before the show. of course, meridian needs to support itself and support the community. but that was not the first consideration, so that made me very happy. >> his work is printed porcelain. he transfers images onto and spoils the surface a fragile shes of clay. each one, only one-tenth of an inch thick. >> it took about two years to get it down. i would say i lose 30% of the pieces that i made. something happens to them. they cracked, the break during the process. it is very complex. they fall apart. but it is worth it to me. there are photographs i took 1 hours 99 the former s

in terms of their philosophical view. i did an interview with obama in 2007 where he praised clinton for correcting the cost of the temmic party. there's going to be interesting arguments about how far should you go to reach a budget deal? how much should you give up? i don't think there's any clarity about how far obama will go and a lot of liberals will wonder will he give away too much. we may repeat some of the arguments. >> charlie, i think the democratic party has changed since bill clinton was president in many ways he would agreeith those changes because of what's happened with the republican party. >> charlie:it's moved from where to where. >> in the clinton sense, mr significantly new democratic party than have been to a somewhat more liberal or progressive party. not far left in a lot of ways but i think it has moved. there's certainly much more scep sism about trade issues than when bill clinton was president. i think the only real division we saw in 2008 primary between president obama and hillary clinton was

if this president does win the election, does he philosophically agree with this in -- such that he would take the leadership on entitlement cuts? >> i think he recognizes that there needs to be some substantial changes. i'm not sure if he goes -- i don't know that he agrees with the ryan approach which means that you fundamentally change the shape of the program. he has dabbled at the edges. a higher measure of inflation for social security so benefits don't rise so quickly. and he increased the retirement age for mead medicare. those things are not the kind of fundamental reform that republicans want, and frankly solves the problem as the baby boomers retire. >> so as we look to the fiscal cliff and all the decisions that have to be made after the election, is it possible to know now whether or not that is going to work effectively, or will it all depend on the outcome of the election? >> you know, i think a lot of people are hoping that they will come with an extension to somehow kick this can down the road once again. it is hard to tell whether people have the stomach to actually go o

it's monday and it's a good day to have an open minded philosophical discussion don't you think i mean i can't think of a better day because occupy wall street is again protesting in new york on the anniversary of the start of that movement and a year later the same issues seem just as relevant what's interesting is that we've had people on the right and left of the political spectrum on this show who agree with the complaints of the occupy wall street movement though they may have different ideas about how to address them investors that hail from the ranks of the one percent have come on this show to identify with protesters over issues such as corporate welfare bailouts and too big to fail in fact i think my first guest on this show exhibited all of those traits we've also had coast keynesian economists neo classical debunker an economic professor steve keen who spoke to protesters about the failings of the economics profession back at protests around a year ago and he talked about occupying the classroom and he advocates q we for the masses so the point is our guest do not all share

those are the philosophical and religious questions. >> you see, that's so interesting about meeting with him is he's saying - like we are saying in this class - religion happens, apparently, paranormal things happen; now how are you going to study about them? obviously, the religious person wants to find meaning out of it, and that's part of what we're talking about it, but you can go out scientifically and measure things. we'll get back to this in terms of jz knight who channels ramtha, we'll talk more about this. but he went up to her ranch near seattle, washington, and hooked her up to all that fancy electronic stuff, and said, "okay, let this 35,000-year-old master into your body. and she ascended to do that, and he, as a scientist, accompanied by a psychologist, a psychoanalyst could not explain how the charts - it went way off the charts. a couple of them, you could fake; the rest of them, you could not fake. and so that's the kind of thing he does is to go out and measure it. so the reason why i wanted to listen to dr. krippner is to say we all come to this from various backg

it is have been the dream of every great philosopher why do we appreciate that? i defend that. >> host: talk about the piano industry with the current debate about sourcing what is your take? >> i am glad you brought that up i was interested when i was in the market for a piano. they sound beautiful totally different from the instruments of today. there is a piano and every home. a major part of the american economy saying it was no longer to be manufactured in the u.s. so they move to curb riyal but there is no panic nobody said it is terrible we're outsourcing the piano. no. it is a normal market process of economic development and pass to play itself out. in a panic way could not possibly have that the laraque it is ridiculous we just have to defer. i was just in brazil they drive a lot of american cars. but there manufactured in brazil and their process is way more advanced because of labor unions. and alabama of manufacturers currey of a car's. >> host: airbus is coming as well. >> so i think it has saved a coulter of my state there are hundreds of spin-off

in your view, let me ask you a philosophical question. you can answer it as you see fit.e kinds of things affect the confidence of americans in the democratic process? >> anything that affects or impacts participation undermines the confidence of voters in the systems. these laws run the risk and demonstrating that they can very sees the impact of participation, particularly of voters like mr. carol in ohio who have been voting for years without incident. now we are being required to go to quite extraordinary lengths to prove who they are in order to get an id to go and vote. we do not see that there is any justification for these laws. whole historyaying has been an expansion of the participation, particularly over the past 50 years. these law run the risk and stand in the way up will order participation. our problem is not that too many people are registered. our problem is that too few people are participating. >> thank you. >> i did hear him say that corporations have been spending money on this canada or that candidate. i cannot speak on what they spent in citizens u

their most important philosophical principles stemmed from that equation. it was the idea of maat-- roughly "rightness" or "order." everything about the egyptian way of life had a pattern, a rhythm, a sense of orderly beginning and end. so too, the egyptians believed, this must be the way of man. man's end on earth was merely a beginning in the next world. when a pharaoh asked, "how long is life?" he was told, "thou art destined for millions of years, for a lifetime of millions." ( ship's horn blowing ) when howard carter returned to the valley of the kings from england in 1922, it was his last chance to find the elusive tomb of the pharaoh tutankhamun. for six years he had searched, but now his support from his sponsor, lord carnarvon, was almost exhaust. each morning, carter rode into the valley-- as trists still do--and continued his work undaunted. the search, as always, had to be done slowly and painstakingly by hand, the tons of earth and stone mod by small baskets. then, five days after the beginning of the season's dig, the work stopped. howard cart

the notion of dependency is really -- philosophically troubling to me.otion that people -- we as members of a community who will give assistance because we believe in this core notion that that assistance permits people to make progress and climb up in life and that we then denigrate them as being victims of dependency. it is just so ant thetical to the world view. that's why i think this comment is so revealing about mitt romney. >> exactly. people are just reduced to how they make money. by the way, it also shows he's not familiar with the circumstances. if you've got a couple of kids and you are on food stamps, unemployment, i know very few people who aren't desperate to get out of that. people are on unemployment. you look at what happens. as you know, when somebody announces jobs, there is a line going twice around the block. the notion that these people aren't interested in trying to improve themselves. and then they have -- they put off -- one of the things we tried to do is to improve funding for community colleges which i think one of the best w

it is a philosophic position. it would be interesting for people to live in a world as people did at the beginning of the modern era and centuries before. people were not relentlessly comodified, the way they are now. people should live in an environment where nothing is bought and sold, just to see what it is like. you know what that is like, within families. there are family that fight about inherited, property, but in any decent family, you are not buying and selling to one another, you are giving. that is a gift economy. it is predicated on the idea that some things have an unconditional value. you cannot put a price on it. we just said, everything is a gift in our city. you cannot buy or sell anything. there is no advertising. you are not surrounded by this nattering pandemonium of commercial messages, which is so relentless. and lo and behold, we discovered, had a certain point in a community, when everyone is giving, -- people began to have experiences that were revelatory. they began to feel like they were

however, myself and many others that i'm in communication with, have never accepted the philosophical and ethical rationale of those laws. it seems to me that in evaluating -- performance evaluation of the chief of police is a prime example of the public's business. i think the public has a right to know how the review process of the command staff or the police department is proceeding, and what the critiques and rebuttals may be approximate likewise, and this is quite more serious, another issue that is to be addressed in closed session is the review of findings and decision to return officer to duty following an officer-involved shooting. as you all are well aware we've come before this body many times with serious critiques and questions about officer involved shootings and one of the things we've brought up is that we find it to be an inherent hazard to the community when officers who have been involved in officer involved shootings are returned to the community to patrol armed while questions linger about their responsibility in these acts. to have such an activity returning offi

this is a real philosophical choice for the voters in that state.on't trust a pole that shows a 20-point swing. >> and tommy thompson who is a life-long moderate. he was a moderate when pitching medicaid reform part d here in washington. it's less about tommy thompson in a way the republican party has shifted out from under people like tommy thompson. he's a real moderate. they don't have a lot of treks with moderate. >> eliot: let's go to montana where the democrats are hoping to hold on with senator tester. how does that look now. >> true battleground. the republicans have trenched back to the barricades. a lot of places they thought they were going to pick up, ohio, virginia wisconsin are looking more difficult. montana is the true toss up. while claire mccatskill may have been ahead in missouri, but now it may be jon tester. the washington money is pouring in. the campaigns are pouring $3 million into montana governor, and in a medium market, that's pretty cheap and $3 million about a long way. it's getting tighter and tighter and jon tester is

. >> the heart of the philosophical difference, okay, reagan was for small limited government and lowerax rates. president obama seems to be for larger government, which frankly we can't pay for, and more government dependency. am i being too hard about more government dependency in? >> the bottom line is the reagan program providing incentives for people who work, save and invest worked. and the obama program, spending more, taxing more, controlling more is failing. and the unhappy part of it all is there is no evidence whatsoever to substantiate any hope that obama would change policies if he got four more years. >> all right, we're going to leave it there. thank you, former senator phil graham. coming up, bill clinton has a marquee role at the democratic convention. but we are about to break news. clinton might go rogue.klein te exclusively learned. that's next up on the clinton story. i look at her, and i just want to give her everything. yeah, you -- you know, everything can cost upwards of...[ whistles ] i did not want to think about that. relax, relax, relax. look at me, look at

and a few years ago, paul ryan said this about his favorite philosopher. >> i grew up reading ayn randy quite a bet about who i am and what my value systems are and what my believes are. it's inspired my so much that it's required reading in my office for my staff. the reason i got involved in public service if i had to credit one thinker it would be ayn rand. when i had to point out that ayn rand was an atheist, paul ryan was then forced to say this. >> i reject her philosophy. it's an atheist philosophy. >> which was exactly what we were hoping he would say. in that same speech where paul ryan swore his devotion to an atheist radical russian philosopher, paul ryan said this about social security. >> social security right now is a collectivist system. >> so there was paul ryan, an elected republican congressman at the time calling this country's most popular government program a communist system. paul ryan very cloerly and very publicly was saying he hated social security. hates it. every bit as much as he hates communism. that quote has proved inconvenient for him now that he's runni

so this is no world shaping culture shaping novelist, philosopher. >> the executive director of the institute. do you get the proceeds are dishy have family? >> i do not. >> no, i meant the institute. >> no, the institute does not get the proceeds. there is a mistake, for a long time students inherited the entire estate, and the proceeds go to him. he supports the institute, but we don't get the press is directly. >> two is down watkins? >> that's a fellow at the institute. his work with me for 67 years now. he is significantly and given me, and the future. the political future of the institute. the phenomenal job. >> with your background? >> i was born and raised in israel. i read alice shrek of 16. i was a committed socialist. and it changed my life. i served in the military for three years, got an undergraduate degree in civil engineering. after reading alice shrek of one of the come to america. it's very much one of things that manuel to come here. and so i came here as a student. the masters, my nba, the university of texas in austin. i was a finance professor in the bay area. then in 20

that i think it's interesting we don't hear the same debate the closing of our borders the sort philosophicalate is still there but the daily come and go. if you are in any area of the economy that was hardest hit by the housing down turn, especially construction. we have seen farm workers and all these areas that are sort of on the margins. i think what we have to talk about is those people that are underemployed, not just having a job but not having enough work. >> reporter: what is the biggest hurdle for latino businesses right now? >> moving forward. the private sector is going to make a difference. the hispanic community is very resilient moving forward. once we get out of this mess but we have to have faith. we have to move forward and create a better tomorrow. >> reporter: what is our role in the u.s. economy as hispanic? >> for me. in addition to the private sector that has to be a greater investment in the ground floor and that means education. if we don't invest in education, whatever the private sector can do is going to be constrained by that. the pipeline has too many leaks from