for example, we had a small committee way back in 2001 when there was no lafco, there was no barbara hill. there weren't a lot of the people here who are talking about cca. but we were the first group, focus group after the state legislation -- because we went to sacramento and we were aware of that -- to do many things which i wanted to explain. but i'll do that at the lafco meeting. but i just wanted to bring that to your attention and i would very much appreciate here in san francisco public comment is very important. thank you very much. >> absolutely. and i know you have never been shy nor has dr. jackson to come up to the podium. so, please don't be shy in the future. just come up to the podium. i'm very new at this, so, give me some time to get used to the issue. any other comments? all right. item number 11. we have legislative director here, benita fox. >> we need to vote on item 10. >> is there a motion? >> moved. >> second. >> moved and second to adopt the rules of ard. all those signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> all those opposed? motion carries. ms. fox, item number 11,