charlie miller charlie miller who is a former government hacker who worked on the good side is now a security specialist. the great hackers of the world. he last year decided to explore vulnerabilities and he found a vulnerability in the iphone that's when he deployed it the right way, this was for a contest, enabled him to take over a portion of that iphone. industrial control computers run water systems and electric grids and so on. last year, a disgruntled hacker of broad went into a water system and in south houston, in texas and got control of those computers. the list goes on and on. there are hacks of google and rsa. there are millions of attacks, literally millions of attacks around the world and intrusions on computer systems every day in the world. probably the most phenomenal attack involved a warm called stuxnet and in that case, the united states government i think working with israel that the united states government developed a computer worm that went into the nuclear process facilities in iran and disrupted the centrifuges. >> host: so it was developed by the u.s. gov

they're being kept by contractors on servers, and charlie triggered that. the other thing that's really interesting is i think the software makers and the vendors really get credit or ought to get credit for improving security. things are much better on a lot of products and software than five or ten years ago, certainly. what i've been hearing lately over and over again is that the bad guys are getting faster than the good guys are getting better. in other words, the attack methods, the cleverness, the ways of evading detection are improving faster than security, um, on the good side of things. and, of course, that's very troubling in part because when you boil out all down, no one still fully understands what happens when billions of people and billions of devices interact in many cyberspace, and the bad guys take advantage of those clouds of uncertainty. >> host: charlie miller, what's your message to congress, to department of homeland security, to dod? >> guest: well, i guess it would be that we spent a lot of time, you know, we're a lot better than we

it is ridiculous. >> charlie -- >> rose: yes, al. >> charlie, i am just going to say when talking about effective line going to martha's point the reason the bayonets and horses line was good, not only a nice line but it had some substance to it, when romney says one of the areas he tried to differentiate himself was on defense spending, smallest navy since 1916 that is true but in 1916 of course we didn't have nimitz class nuclear aircraft carrier that can reach targets 1,000 miles away that is more relevant so i think that is why that line work. i don't think this debate changes the basic dynamics but to go to tina's earlier point, mitt romney did do a rope a dope and in denver i thought that barack obama did a rope a dope, what they both ignored in the history of rope a dope is, muhammad ali pummelled the heck out of somebody for eight round before he started rope a doping, these guys did not. >> rose: let me go to chuck todd did you see this coming in anyway? >> >> well, you don't think it was clear, yes, this was clearly going to be the romney strategy and we should give -- romney'

the motives are, as charlie said, all over the place. i have watched details about bad hackers. if we know for example that some of them are preparing infiltrating systems with long- lasting threats in the event there is ever a cyber conflict or cyber war. our power grids, national labs, corporate systems all over the u.s. are already -- have already been intruded, and it is believe there are already trojan horses. a lot of espionage is occurring. we know there are groups in russia and china, for example, that work regular hours breaking into systems and stealing information, massive amounts of information. the motives are the same modus that you might find it within your array of bad people -- money, money policing, intelligence, and prepping for cyber war. >> charlie miller, for casual users, regular users of the internet who may do online banking, surf the internet, send e-mail, what kind of protection would you recommend to those people? >> well, the regular users are in pretty good place. we, and i we we mean security, the security industry has been working quite a few year

as always. >> thank you, charlie. thank you, charlie. >> rose: and albert, last word to you. >> we have concluded here, every night that there has been a debate we have been here live holding the fort these have certainly been and industry less than 20 seconds, memorable debates than in the past, have they not? taken as a hole? >> i agree, charlie, they have been among the most memorable ever and i thank you we have had fund fun on this and yahweh to see halperin at the council for foreign relations. >> rose: i can't wait to see what happens tomorrow, thank you all it has been a pleasure, thank you at home. see you next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> froe

." >> great to be with you, charlie. thank you. >> rose: so tell me what you thought of the governor's speech today and did you learn more about his foreign policy positions from it? >> well, you know, i'm -- it's always good to see governor romney, any of the candidates, taking foreign policy seriously. and, you know, this speech certainly does that. but underlying it, charlie, i'd say are several criticisms i would have. one is there's this basically republican trope that romney has fallen back on which is kind of the old one: democrats are wimps basically, and republicans are the daddy party and they're tough and obama's basically a democrat of whim. >> rose: right. >> and the facts just don't bear it out. so that's kind of the underlying theme. also there's a -- i think just a straight out false statement that no trade agreements have been concluded under obama. i believe he signed three of them, including one with south korea. and although they were negotiated by previous administrations, all trade agreements are ne

charlie bit me. charlie!g lines from the movies go, "charlie bit me" may not be "this isn't kansas anymore," or "frankly my dear, i don't give a damn," but after being viewed almost half a billion times in five years since the video was released, it's become the catch phrase ticket for a lucrative charlie bit my finger family business guided by the boy's father howard. >> we've never gone out to look to find income from it. it's things have come along, people have suggested things and we've taken them up on that. >> charlie bit your finger. >> cue the commercial, this time for pasta sauce. now aged 8 and 6, harry and charlie may seem a little bored with celebrity. >> what was that like? >> not fun. >> about six hours for only 32 second. >> but they still know what they're there for. some things never change. >> i know it's exciting, biting a finger. >> the success of "charlie bit my finger" is reflected in download numbers and t-shirt sales. what is harder to understand is why. >> i think the whole scene is -

there's no real news -- [talking over each other] charlie: traders are selling -- charlie: liz: yelpis losing an yahoo! is considered a major -- you could argue microsoft which has earnings "after the bell," if there is an inadvertant punch and microsoft restored that but microsoft with its being search engine not a player but a looking for any comment. charlie: i don't want to give much credence to a mistake but stuff like this really does hurt market confidence. when investors see fat finger traders causing a flash crash or somebody at night securities not knowing what they're doing. liz: what happens to people who by accident -- charlie: we see the chart -- liz: they took a bigger hit initially. charlie: the problem -- [talking over each other] liz: they are not getting hurt. charlie: this is a stock everyone should be following. this company is under tremendous pressure because of the incident. what i remember covering wall street is this company used to print the prospect thises and earnings and this is a financial printer, used to be a huge business. go out and drink with these

i love it. >> reporter: as many long time washingtonians can tell you, charlie was the public address announcer at griffiths stadium from 1956 to 1971 during which time the senators lost, a lot more than they won which is why the nationals' winning wave has been a real thrill for charlie. >> it's bringing the city closer together. it's really exciting! >> reporter: though he's not officially associated with the nationals, charlie likes to consider himself the team's unofficial ambassador. >> i always wanted to be an ambassador. >> reporter: he's friendly with the team's owners and goes to about 20 games a year. in fact, he's planning on being at the game tonight against the phillies when the nats hope to clinch the division. >> everybody loves to associate, be associated with a winner. >> reporter: what's more, charlie has been asked to be the honorary public address announcer for the team's first playoff game. >> let's play ball. >> reporter: when asked if he ever thought a washington squad would be the best team in baseball, charlie answered with his typical honesty and enthusiasm.

charlie standing any morning at the live -- by this morning at the live desk and charlie still a lot to be happy about this morning. >> a lot to be happy about megan. but like you said if we're going to see them play again in camden yards, there's still much work to be done. the orioles hope to end their regular season last night with win in tampa. that would have guaranteed at least one postseason game in camden yards but by way of the 4-1 loss to the rays, the yankees blowing out the red sox and oakland winning over the texas rangers, the orioles go on the road now for the one game wild card playoff. jeremy hellickson kept the ballots at bay and -- bats at bay and longoria, three home runs on the way to the win for him. as a result baltimore now travels to texas for the one game playoff friday night. it's not where they wanted to be. we've been telling you about that. but when you consider how far the team has come, you got to tip your cap and get ready to play at least one more postseason game. >> i told our guys how proud i am just sob associated with -- to be associated with thi

charlie let me start with you. how it is that mitt romney can continue to affiliation himself with people who make inane comments like those. >> first of all the jesuate fathers thought me [ inaudible ] he is silent gives consent. why has he gotten away with it -- >> jennifer: why hasn't he said anything at all. >> because he doesn't have to. he has gotten away with everything else. i wish i had a nickel for every pundit who told me last february, oh, he has got to release the tax returns. guess what he hasn't released the tax returns and he is not going to do the next ten days. they telegraph the etch-a-sketch punch six months ago. they said he was going to start lying. and he started right on schedule. and he has gotten away with it. so why wouldn't he get away with chloroforming the crypt keeper and bringing john sununu back. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i don't know that you can top that karl so i'm going to flip the conversation for a second because the president has been making himself available. >> right. >> je

charlie: we really -- mary schapiro -- [talking over each other] charlie: thank you for enlightenings is a joke. [talking over each other] >> compelled thousands of people to come to the trading desk. [talking over each other] charlie: why don't they have a backup plan? the security market should not be shutdown because of a storm. that is it. we don't know what the price of ibm is, the value of ibm and big american companies, apple suspended because of this storm. the question is we have tons of technology, trade stocks in milliseconds and put men on the moon and can send drones' anywhere. >> to keep people out manhattan. [talking over each other] charlie: the point is, why wasn't there a contingency plan to have the markets running and by the way. much of this market trades through the electronics network that is located in chicago. why didn't they have a contingency plan to keep the markets open. one of the funny things, i like her personally. she is a great person. i am not taking a cheap shot at her. ashley: a little sarcasm. charlie: when i look at her record, her legacy, the s

now charlie grabs people in the green room. charlie and ed coming >>> 28 years old. goes to university in shanghai. then she win as rhodes to oxford and then drops out. that's where the trail dries up. >> you think about house to, the jewelry and car. that money had to come from somewhere. odds are there's a dude in the picture. >> dude. is that are you on lie idea for how a woman can get money. easiest way for a woman who looks like this. not just money but crazy big money. >> what does the coroner say? >> clean and simple. >> ed burns is back in theaters in the new movie "alex cross." >> he's been writing, directing and producing since "the brothers mcmillian. >> the car i play doesn't exist in any novels. they gave alex a partner who is a childhood best friend and matthew fox plays a homicidal maniac. >> very well. >> he's done some very bad things. >> i think it's fair to say, from what i've heard from tyler that you two have kind of a bromance. >> we hit it off on day one and we were talking earlier. hit to do with we're both writer, director, actor. this was th

funding for charlie rose was provided by the following captioning sponsored by rose communications >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >> it is time to do the nation building right -- right home. that future is out there and waiting for us. >> tonight the special edition of charlie rose. >> rose: welcome to our program. we are live this evening from new york city, hofstra university in washington, d.c. president obama and governor romney clashed in the second of three debates before election kay on november 6th, intense pressure on both candidates but especially the president. his poor showing in the first debate shifted the momentum of the race. the a gallup poll earlier today put governor romney ahead 50 to 46 nationally, the campaigns have been focusing closely on a select few battleground states, including florida, ohio and virginia, tonight the candidates engage in a stir irs of heated exchanges on stage, joining me in new york, jon meacham, the author of the forthcoming book thomas jefferson, and mark halperin of time magazine a

charlie, what should parents look out for? >> you have to be careful with this and you have to keep in mind megan, this is doubly important in maryland. because those new laws went into effect regarding child safety seats. so inspectors say the first factor you must consider is how the seat belt fits over your child. that's according to insurance institute for highway safety. the group was released is recent survey. of the 17 models made in 2012, 15 received a top rating of best bet. the most ever since the iihs first began ranking them in 2008. so how does the seat get a best bet and make it on the list? the group looks to make sure the seat belts lie flat over your child's thighs and don't ride up to their stomachs. the shoulder belt should fit snugly and not slide off. new law took effect here in maryland in october. on october 1st to be specific that requires kids under 8 years old ride in a booster seat unless they're over the height of 4'9"-inches. we have a link to the site and our site at abc2news.com. letting you know

charlie? >>> coming up in morning at 5:00, it's one bottle of barbecue sauce that's worth much more than you could ever imagine. why the owner though says this is not to be eaten and the price tag to boot. >> also, some good news for men who take vitamins, the belts health experts say men could be getting -- benefits health experts say men could be getting from those daily doses. >>> thanks for staying with us, being diagnosed with breast cancer a life-altering event affecting so many. that's why two women are now on a mission to help support survivors. lynn lost her mother to breast cancer more than five years ago. she co-owns bare necessities with her sister. they sell undergarments for patients who want the look and feel good -- to look and feel good after hearing they have breast cancer. judy says the store is exactly what she needed. >> they need a place that will help you find what you're looking for. you need to come in, you're not feeling your best. and some of these women are going th

charlie. ouch. charlie, that really hurt. >> jimmy: never has baby-on-child violence been so adorable. that's harry and his little brother, charlie. and harry and charlie are soon going to be starring in their own show. for real. it will be called "kings of youtube." and harry and charlie will review viral videos. they released an advanced clip in the show. the boys are a little older now. but they're still very, very cute. >> hello. welcome to "kings of youtube," where we review the best viral videos of the week. i'm harry. and this is my brother, charlie. >> cheers. >> let's not waste any precious time. >> well said, brother. >> this poor chap got -- >> what an unfortunate but hilarious incident. your thoughts, charlie? >> brilliant. >> indeed. i give it the only thumb i have left, way up. >> and i bite it off. >> no, charlie, stop . no. >> "kings of youtube," only on the telly. >> jimmy: one more thing, this is for -- do we have any comic book fans here? don't get too excited. it's not like it's

nora and charlie? >>> governor mitt romney is reshuffling his schedule because of hurricane sandy. he spent most of sunday in the key swing state of ohio. jan crawford is in cleveland covering the romney campaign. >> reporter: good morning. romney already has canceled four campaign rallies in new hampshire, in virginia and the campaign felt like it had no choice. these events use a lot of local resources, law enforcement officers, state troopers and a campaign, of course believes those resources would be better getting ready for this big storm. >> i know that right now some people in the country are nervous about a storm about to hit the coast. and our thoughts and players are with the people who find them says in harm's way. [ applause ] >> reporter: on sunday in ohio mitt romney and paul ryan took a break from their campaign message to talk about hurricane sandy barreling toward the east coast. >> let's today when we get home put in our prayers the people who are on the east coast, in the wake of thi

to ben stein, gerri willis and ben stein and charlie gasperino. >> people have to figure 0 this out. 90% of american households here are going to find some kind of new tax and that means 500 billion dollars is going to be raised. 120 million households are going to be impacted not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, there are now obamacare taxes going into place and it's going to kill investments and taxes on dividends go up 20%, long-term capital gains taxes go up 7%, i'm telling you if ne don't work on this, the whole economy is going to come skidding to a halt. >> and ben, the irony of course the debates focused on the economy and this seems like question he number one. >> i'm floored, charles, i'm glad you brought it up. the sequester is probably as bad an idea as ever come out of congress and the white house. the idea to me in particular, of cutting the defense budget, 5% of the budget, equally, roughly 5% of gdp, very, very roughly, more like 4%. >> right. >> ehe quali with domestic spending is just insanity, it's suicide. if mr. osama bin laden were still alive, he would

charlie: was the sec involved in that? >> yes. we kind of reported our consensus to the sec and then taken back to us after caucusing a bit on their side. charlie: they did make that call to you about the business wanting a close. maybe i am missing painting it. >> we present to them as an industry first. we say to the sec, this is the conclusion we have come to as an industry, what do you think? they come from our decision and we made the announcement. we are all watching the same reports you are watching, your previous guest was pretty sobering in terms of what may happen in the next 24 hours. we will be making the decision much earlier today about tomorrow's market. if even half of what you're per guest is talking about is true, i would anticipate the market will be closed again tomorrow. keep in mind, it is a month and. it will be pretty important for the markets to be open in some shape or form. we will make sure we stay in close touch with you and everybody else. charlie: yesterday you said you would receive some pressure to

back to megan and charlie. >>> she disappeared on the way to school. that was two weeks ago. >> her body was found last week, who the police now have in custody in the murder of jessica ridgeway. >> they are meant to keep your children safe. what the safety inspectors are saying this morning about booster seats. >> and he is the machine in marge -- man in charge of the o's, the recognition buck showalter is now getting that so many say he does deserve. >> everything is up to speed here on interstate 97 at the beltway. i'll let you know how traffic is shaping up on 95 and 83 coming up on "good morning maryland." >> and you are taking a live look -- let's see. is that downtown baltimore? this is actually -- going to be west palm beach, florida. we'll have more on sandy coming up next. >>> thank you for joining us on this thursday morning. jessica ridgeway was a 10-year- old girl walking to school when she was kidnapped. the community banned together in a tireless search for her but she was found last week and she had been murdered and now police believe