those people out there are drilling down 1,500 feet into the sea floor of the chukchi sea.t's what shell has achieved so far this year. they need to drill down 8,000 feet in order to get into hydrocarbon zone. that's not going to happen this year because of major setbacks. the biggest set back, the arctic challenger, the clean-up barge shell wanted to use in order to be on hand here in case of a spill. they had problems with that, they couldn't get it qualified to come up here. and then they had ice flows come in when they did start work, and it slowed everything down. basically, this is a $5 billion dress rehearsal, but shell says next year they'll be able to find this exact hole where these individuals are doing this year and continue that work. and next year they say they won't be exploratory wells. they'll be drilling for oil. erin? >> and miguel, green peace, obviously, along with other environmental groups, say this could be terrible. that if there were to be a leak, it could be much, much worse than the deep water because of the ice. do they have a point? >> reporter