i will give a lot of credit to roy lester -- lassiter, who understood that that transparency was important, not just that his institution, but around the country as we are trying to figure out what is going on in our health care systems as it relates to our community and how can we fix that? he sensed the story that i want to try to tell. we were able to build a trust and he understood that i was more interested in telling the story of the community's struggle and the institutions struggle than i was in doing an ex's on the hospital, per se. tavis: tell me what you think he wanted you to see, wanted the viewer to see through your work about this particular hospital. >> the story that people are familiar with at highland, not just in oakland but communities around the country, baltimore, the bronx, boston, news at 11:00, when somebody comes in shot. that is the dominant possession -- perception that the community has about our public hospitals. in the debatebeginning, we commt we want to tell a deeper story and go beyond the headlines and beyond the statistics, particularly as it relates to