calipers, massivelily underfunded. it's good-bye u.s.a., hello greece if we're not careful. >> the concern is that we're going end up with fewer state workers. oh no, smaller government is better in my book so if we're going to save money and shrink government, it sounds like a home run. i hope they're doing enough. >> christian, you're worried we the government might lose out on valuablable employees. >> absolutely. it's not just about having smaller government, it's about having smart, efficient government. size is relative to value. if the buyouts succeed in losing talented employees, the short term bottom lining gain may be long term public sector pain in terms of what services we taxpayers get. this is a tool. it can be used. i'm not saying you can't pursue buyouts but to think it's a magic bullet is wrong-headed. >> christian, you know more is not necessarily good. i mean washington, for example, d.c. increased their hiring in government jobs by 38,000 people in the last three years. by the way, he can't overcome