mr. birdsong was that he felt the sense of disappointment. and i would just want to reassure mr. birdsong and anyone who's donated to livestrong that they weren't supporting one person. they weren't supporting an athlete or a celebrity. they were supporting millions of people throughout the united states who are struggling with cancer. and that is exactly what their funds were used to support. >> so i take that as a "no". >> well, certainly we want to hear from our donors and if they have concerns, we want to know about that. but ultimately, the funds that livestrong has raised and the hard-earned dollars that our donors have contributed, we're very, very grateful for. and they have gone to serve people who are struggling with financial or insurance problems as a result of cancer. and i find it hard to believe that anybody would want to ask for their money back for dollars contributed to such an amazing and noble cause. >> but you certainly understand the concern, which i think you said earlier in this interview. it's been, as i said at the top of this show, a very bad couple of w

mr. birdsong who want their money back. >> sales of the yellow bracelets are up.behind him. >> that's the great news, the positive of all of this is really what lance armstrong has done, you know, for cancer patients and that's it. people are coming forward and they're putting more money into this charity because the charity and everything he's done there is on the up and up, and they've done some wonderful things. it's really unfortunate because mr. armstrong and the charity he created was really built on his reputation and survival and, you know, that obviously we look at now and it's a little bit of a farce, but unfortunately -- or fortunately rather, livestrong will continue after he steps down. >> if he was your client, what would you recommend to him right now? >> well, the first thing i would recommend would be to definitely come forward and admit, you know, what has gone on. it's extremely evident that he participated. not only participated but orchestrated, you know, an entire doepg scandal. and cycling itself, you know, he's not the only one, mr. armstro