>> a quarter of christians believe in reincarnation. >> one out of four christians believe in reincarnation, what is reincarnation? >> after you die your soul continues and finds another body and is born as another person. >> how do you reconcile christian beliefs and reincarnation with a belief in jesus? >> it's hard to reconcile it and i think the way i reconcile is religious peopleren't always consistent in their theology. >> isn't reincarnation essentially a nonchristian, religious belief? >> yes, i mean, it comes from most power lineally from hinduism but it also comes from the greeks. there actually was a discussion early on in christianity about whether there was a way to coordinate reincarnation beliefs with the greeks for christianity and the folks who wanted to lost. >> is there a religionian christians are practicing other beliefs and definitions of other religions? >> definitely. >> true of christians, one out of four believe in reincarnations, doest work the other way, does a buddhist in any way seek out and adopt the beliefs of christians? >> yes, they do and that's one of the

the christian people are a christian people that are in the middle. if you're going to a lot muslim people, so they would say, okay, you are christian, and it's a big problem for you. and if you go into the jewish side, they would say the same, you are christian, you are arab. and you are in the middle, you know, like pulling off - and it's very bad for us. and i'm thinking to go out from here, it's better than staying here. >> because you just made a really good point. i mean, there's no country- you know, you don't have a country here. >> exactly. >> even if they did eventually divide up palestine and israel, the two states, you still have no country. >> we are still without country, yeah. even if there is palestine and arab government and everything is arab, it will stay like their religion, and i don't belong here and i'm very sure of that, you know. >> well, you mentioned that you have three daughters. we've obviously seen some tensions between the arabs and jews. for instance, if one of your daughters wanted to date an arab boy, would that be ac

he wrote small manuscripts against christianity. his friends said later it wasn't so much he didn't believe in god. he was mad at god. because he thought his mother's ill ji illigetmasy made him less. >> lee: how do you account for his conversion? what changed his thinking on the christian faith? >> unfortunately, what changed his thinking were a series of deaths. he lost his mother. he lost sons. he said at one point in his life he was haunted by the thought of rain falling on graves. in the providence of god, each time there was a significant death in his life, there was a minister of the gospel there to speak to him. he lost a child as he was living in springfield. mary, his wife, completely freaked out in her grief. but abraham had a good minister, who pulled him in and shared the word with him. he could answer lincoln's concerns and intellectual problems. and he became to come to a deep and genuine faith. >> lee: even after he came to faith, did he wrestle with one of the fundamentals of the christian faith? >> he wrestled with

reverend noor is a christian. he is challenged in his conception and his quest for the christian life by a role that limits his possibilities, but he struggles against it. but what of a muslim? what of a muslim in cairo? is there ethical struggles? is there ethical dilemmas that a young muslim has to go through in trying to realize- in this case his- his own proper patterns of action? what's the good life for him? now, to some extent, this happens in all cultures, because he's a young person trying to make sense of life. but what akmad- who we interviewed- what he brings out is that even within islam- i mean, you may be well familiar with this- but even within islam in egypt, there is major conflicts. and to put a little bit of a background on it, when we were in egypt, there were very, very few tourists there because not shortly before, the tourists in luxor had been mowed down by machine guns. and what's fueling this, of course, is the quest by fundamentalist, traditionalist muslims to overthrew what they percei

what christian is saying is correct. ask a politician what's the grid going to look like when it's 2050? they have zero ideas. so when we have things, we patch things back together. we have got to fix this grid and we've got it get to a smart grid with a dc -- >> you want to do all this because of one storm? >> you have the audacity so call this an inconvenience! the people in staten island and long islandd are so beyond inconvenience! you can not keep kick the can down the road because it's going to cause a higher electric bill. >> i've got a short amount of time. wayne, last word what, do you think? >> i think it's a fairly simple solution. it's got to be paid for by somehow. just have the people vote on it. say, we want to vote on this. we want to put this underground. we don't want to have to do this again and we'll pay the price for it. assess us for it and we'll do it. that's all. just don't let the politicians do it. >> there you go. >> birmingham, alabama, how well that turned out. >> thank you. christian, thank

christian, five seconds. >> yeah. i think we all agree that the timing is wrong, but jonathan, you are absolutely dead wrong, especially your being a market guy. you should recognize that the price of car done does not reect its cost and the carbon tax is designed tho do that. but we shouldn't look at it as a big revenue raiser. we should look at it as a way to normalize the market and make it equitable. >> i want to stay on this environmental story because coming up, lights are still out for lots of sandy victims. for lots of sandy victims. now there is a plan t t t t t 4g lte is the fastest. so, which supeast 4g lte service would yochoose, based on this chart ? don't rush into it, i'm not looking for the fastest answer. obviously verizon. okay, i have a different chart. going that way, does that make a difference ? look at verizon. it's so much more than the other ones. so what ife just changed the format altogether ? isn't that the exact same thing ? it's pretty clear. still sticking with verizon. verizon. more 4g

all students and non-christians have to say a christian prayer.here was outrage just like there is is now with this tree. now you look back on it and you think of course you can't ask non-christians to say a christian prayer in public school. so these controversies you generate them here but they really shouldn't be controversies it's a public building paid for by everybody. it's changing times. >> bill: it's not a symbol of religion. >> this is a secular building. it's a public building paid for by people of all religions. >> bill: the lord's prayer is obviously a religious expression. a christmas tree is. >> have to say it everybody used to have to say in elementary school and public school times change. >> bill: you are making invalid comparison. >> this is a public building. >> bill: you have a secular christmas tree in a public -- look, the white house has a christmas tree, okay? so what's the difference? the white house. >> you are wrong, bill. they call it a white house tree. >> bill: it's a christmas tree. barack obama calls it a christmas

and so they want to make sure that this christian cult, there's distancing. so, i'm not really sure but i think that's some of the - seeing very complex set of - >> kind of a little bit of this and a little bit of that - >> yes, janet. >> and wouldn't history ultimately depend on who's writing it? >> as always, it's an interpretive thing. >> a social context, who's writing that history. >> it's always the case that you have to remember. and searching through this i do not know what the exact answer will ever be but we do see that. i always thinking of it as an umbilical cord eventually, for lot's of complex sociological, theological reasons the umbilical cord connects this new little baby christianity that's connected up to the mother judaism is cut and then christianity is free to grow in unusual ways. >> isn't time a factor in so many religions that heavens gate they seize on the comet back then. and with the millennium coming up, people are screwing a round assessing their faith, - is this the end? and the fundamentalist are seizing on el ninos destruction

macarius monastery out in the deserts of egypt a good christian.ging out at that particular church. but both places really do maintain an authentic christianity for them, and that's all that we are saying here, it's balancing those dilemmas of institutionalization within that ecological mix it. >> i have a couple of questions. that one that you taped was that a sunday sermon or was that an extra? >> saturday evening. >> saturday evening. >> that's the hot one. >> so what they repeated that sunday morning? >> i should add that there are several other ministries and this is the one, saturday night one is where they bring in a lot of new comers. that's where it's most entertaining. now there's other services and the people who are part of the church they are much more typically i don't want to say benevolent, but more low key, something along those lines. >> so, what ever it is it's working? >> oh yes. >> seeing the number of people that are there who might not otherwise attend but - and if it saves a troubled marriage, god bless them. >> yes, it is s

and an example i am going to use is if you walk into a christian science church or christian science reading room in any town or city of the united states, conventionality exudes from it, it just fits that conventional american protestant type mode. but over issues of healing for instance, when, from healing through prayer, when someone dies or some issue has been raised in the courts, that tends to push them along the continuum at least into a middle ground, and in some cases where there has been some severe conflicts and some convictions, particularly involving children it can push them in there, so there is a lot of movement here. also let's not just think about the united states, so that's primarily what we are looking at. you go to cities of los angeles and there is a buddhist temple of one sort or another in just about every other corner next to your episcopalian and methodist church. so buddhism in los angeles is taking on a much more conventional status where as if they-- well for instance, to flip my examples here, but there are enough muslims in macomb to actually build a m

no christian should support this. yet, the democrat party has now declared same sex marriage an official part of its platform. and black christians remain in that party? the civil rights establishment has embraced the lie and betrayed the black community and god almighty. for 30 pieces of silver from the democrat party. we as christians ought to know better. shame on us for allowing ourselves to be sold to the highest bidder. we to god. >> bill: with us now to react is senior pastor at the first corinth baptist church and reverend degraph fox news contributor. your reaction tore that? >> i'm reverend degraph. >> my reaction is he mentions 30 pieces of silver. i wonder who paid for that. i wonder who this organization, this stand up for america really is because if you are a republic, he needs to just say that and if you say you condemn one party and then what is your constructive response to that. >> bill: let's deal with the bishop's specific criticisms. obviously he is against abortion. look, whether you are pro-lif

what is going on, christian? >> well, we are looking for an update from police, and taking a look here, this is that area that leads to treasure island and we spoke to police early this morning and they confirm there has been a police standoff leading to treasure island and we have video of the suspect out of his vehicle sitting on a railing and san francisco police confirm shortly after 4:00 this started as a police pursuit near the intersection of bush. during that police pursuit, the suspect fired a gun and fired one shot at officers. then on treasure island he held a gun to his own head threatening suicide. the suspect is believed to be duncan phillips. he is wanted for assault and stealing a car on thursday. we spoke with san francisco police who told us it is simply too dangerous to let people drive by the active scene. >> because of that, we were not sure what he intends to do. we could not allow him to travel up on the roadway. >> and now again, we are looking for an update on this situation and hopefully

run by christian missionaries, americans, he did not have very deep roots in the region. it became a path to middle easterners who were not just orthodox christians but muslims and jews. this is the best place to get the best possible education. within a generation, by 1900, eight and become what it remains to the state colleges the harvard of the middle east. what is magnificent about that is it is an all-inclusive institution founded by americans that exists to serve the interests of the people of them released regardless of background. and it's an example of the nez states giving to the region. >> speaking of which, professor, how would you -- to use the bis as being a part of american diplomacy to the middle east? >> only indirectly. the leaders of the school has traditionally attempted to maintain independence from the united states government. which i think. it serves american interests in the sense that it gives ministers of whatever background and faith and awareness that states have a humanitarian presence. it's not always of access to oil . the military force fo

and throughout the region, muslims, christians a jews all have been offering special prayers. >>> in his four-day visit to southeast asia, president obama became the first u.s. president to visit myanmar, or burma. the president urged the new civilian government to continue its steps toward democracy. he also specifically called for more religious freedom. on a stop in thailand, the president visited bangkok's famous temple of the reclining buddha. he told monks there he needed prayers for help in his dealings with congress back home. >>> and heret home, those lawmake are negotiating with the administration over how to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" looming at the end of the year. this week, a group of christian leaders urged congress and the president not to cut anti-poverty programs as they struggle to reach a deal. in an open letter, the leaders said "we pray during this season, in which we give thanks and offer gifts, that you will advance policies that protect the poor, not ones that make them poorer." >>> meanwhile, a prominent christian advocacy group said while some progr

but christianity in particular is because of the numbers of christians and you're right -- >> bill: thedgmental aspect of it. >> and also -- >> wait a second. who is opposed to organized -- >> christians don't fight back. >> let me get some time here. when is opposed to organized fight? progressives? they're not. it's a matter of what the government should do. conservatives all talk about how they want less government in their lives. you want government involved in declaring what should be part should violate the establishment clause of the constitution? you had a priest in illinois who said this is a violation to have a crÈche and you supported having a crÈche in illinois state -- >> bill: he's is what i want. ii want you to start a drive to revoke the federal holiday. will you get behind that? >> i don't think -- >> bill: come on. because that would make your case stronger. >> i don't think it's pragmatic. but my -- >> bill: no, no, it doesn't have to be pragmatic. it has to be from the heart. you don't want it to be? come on. let's see how far that goes. >> remember, you got this war

>>i you say there are tens of thousands of christians in north korea. >> there is an underground christian church within north korea. >> christian organizations rank it as the most persecuted church in the world, so there are tens of thousands of christians in the gulag. >> the culture personality established in north korea is nothing like anything we've seen in thee 20th correctory. >> most important for the regime creating a new cult of personalities around this man, kim jungkim jong un. about him, little is known. >> wime don't even know how olde is. north korea hasn't released his birthdate. we assume he's in his late 20s, but that's never been confirmed. >> he's believed to have studied in switzerland. we're not sure. >> what is known is he now commands the world's fourth largest army with 1.1 million soldiers and a nuclear arsenal with4t six bombs. though the population of 22 million act with blind devotion to their new leader, some people inside the country are beginning to show unprecedented dissent. >> we have an exodus of north koreans leaving the country. >> the new underground

what do these rilts teesults te about the christian right moving forward?k it raises major questions about the politics. mostly when it pertains to guy marriage. i mean, if you could remember where we were eight years ago this week in the 2004 election, the christian right had helped usher george w. bush back into a second term partly by passing 11 ballot initiatives banning guy marriage. many have since then adopted guy marriage bans amending their constitutions and this week we saw the undoing or at least maybe a changing of the tide in that with three states for the first time adopting guy marriage legalization through voters going to the polls. and so what we saw this week was a lot of christian right leaders, some serious evangelical heavyweights saying that publicly maybe the tide has changed and setting a path forward for the movement. >> president obama, when you look at some of the numbers and we've seen a big break drz down, 51% of the catholic vote despite abortion rights and post-game analysis, what may have most influenced catholics and christi

but for me as a christian, it also coincides with jesus' teaching that "for unto whom much is given, much shall be required." >> but much of the god talk has been done directly to religious audiences, as opposed to in general campaign venues. even obama, who made frequent religious references in the last campaign and throughout his presidency, hasn't been emphasizing it as much of late. some experts believe that could be to avoid alienating the growing number of secular voters who are democratic. >> there's some real positives to these candidate's faith but there's also some real potential downside, and so that's why i don't, we don't see the candidates themselves talking a lot about it, but their surrogates and their campaigns are reaching out to religious and non religious voters alike, trying to bring them into their camp. >> for most of the campaign, romney refrained from speaking directly about his mormon faith. in the last few weeks, he's opened up a bit more, although he still largely avoids using the word "mormon." >> my passion probably flows from the fact that i believe in

christiane, you've been with us every step of the way on this. this truce came after secretary clinton's arrival. how big a role did she play and how big a role was this for the new government of egypt in fashioning this truce? >> reporter: well, any time a secretary of state travels, it's really important. and she was there for the closing. but all the american officials have said, this was egypt's proposal. america spoke to hamas through egypt. israel spoke to hamas through egypt. and president obama in his statement after the cease-fire said that he had urged the israeli prime minister to accept egypt's proposal. they definitely played the major role here in getting hamas to the table. i had an exclusive interview with the head of hamas, he said what they want out of it is a lifting of the siege. that may happen. what israel wants out of it is no more rockets into israel and no more supply of weapons to gaza. they might get that, as well. but of course, we're going to watch. it's fragile. >> and christiane, you heard the word the white house u

judaism are a recognition. >> sects of christianity.'s really not cool for you to try and. >> bill: not cool. >> not cool for you to cloud their. this issue is about religious neutrality from the government. the government says. the government is not allowed to pick sides. >> bill: okay, number one. >> religious belief or philosophy is fine. >> bill: if you read the constitution it says the government cannot promote a religion. >> no, it says the congress shall not establish any laws respecting an establishment of a religion. >> bill: of a religion. not a philosophy. >> so you wouldn't have a problem with the government of the united states establishing atheism that is also a philosophy. >> bill: establishing what does it mean. >> in god we don't trust. one nation under god under the fledge of allegiance. >> bill: if you wanted to go up to albany new york and put a happy winter soltis on andrew cuomo's office door i have got no problem with it? >> you would. >> bill: don't tell me what i think when i said i didn't have a problem, i don'

there were many christians in korea. pyongyang was known as the jerusalem of the east. >> by 1948 he is formally appointed head of the korean workers. he is the leader of north korea. >> over the next decade the cult of personality established around kim il sun. >> in 1955 the north korean government started its bizarre cult like ideology. >> what it basically says is the north korean people are almost a superior race and they need to determine the future of their country and advance their socialist revolution on their own. we have the power a huge white monument with one brick in the monument to symbol every day of the life of kim-il sun. a think tank. everything revolved around inventing a north korean society. >> in in 1994 after decades spent enslaving the north korean people kim ill sun died. >> there was genuine grieving when he side. it sunk in. people looked at him as almost a super natural being. >> his successor would try to become himself. >> kim jong-il is the oldest son born to his first wife. >> kim jong-il

: christian as in christian lefer from wtp. >> it's very possible in that primary that when she was tryingto write this letter, that she could have very easily have run it by him. he may have asked, "do you need any help?" and she said, "yeah, i need to get this family letter out." so it's very possible, there could have been a little bit of that, but as far as him being involved in the campaign to any degree, you know, basically i was running the campaign. >> ryssdal: well, buhelping your wife, and helping do communications with potential voters is not, in your mind, helping a campaign? >> well, it would be. yeah, yeah. it would be. i mean, there could be some of that going on. >> in here we have what i call the candidate signatures. so here we have mike miller. >> ryssdal: from the john ward race and it's clearly a photocopy. >> right. this is one from wesley prouse and it actually was cut from this page, which was faxed to christian lefer, same fax, same number. >> ryssdal: same number, yeah. >> so this fits, i believe, and as i went through this, it became clear that these signatures a

who would appeal to evangelical christians. could they read the results that way? >> the right to life and the sanctity of marriage will always be a pt of the platform. >> always. how smart is that? >> the mormon religion did play a role, but also, mitt romney flip-flopped on same-sex marriage, they perceived that and also the abortion issue. so evangelicals can -- >> i think the republican party has become overly dependent on its evangelicals, and the real question is do they have anybody to replace them with. once they begin to appeal more broadly as these are mostly older people, as these people pass, you really will have a big hole left in their party. >> and that points to important demographics. single women voted for obama in 2008 and they voted for him in 2012. but the problem is the percentage of the population that are single women skyrocketed and the number of latinos in this country who are voting age skyrocketed. so for the republicans to -- and remember, we're non-partisan organization here, but let's talk about t

here we have three religions- two of them christian- in one country where they have for quite a while dwelt side by side, although without warfare, certainly without any great friendship. but they have in the past been able to coexist, until something sparked this terrible tragedy. >> and you see, and this is where i want to get very careful here because we have to remember something i've said before in this class, you know, there's not good and bad religions or good and evil religions- they're human beings under all kinds of complex pressures. if you want to think of a theological concept, which we rarely do in here, but original sin, if you think of sin as alienation, it's that pulling apart. well, go back to the buddhists- you k now, our sense of pulling apart and wanting to be separate. well, you mix that in, as virginia said, with the situation in what was yugoslavia and you see lots of political elements moving in here. you know, we're talking about religion as identity and relationship- powerful stuff- but can it be pristine? can it be clearly coming down from the divine? no. y

the silence from this administration about christian persecution, the silence about the sentencing to death of these coptic christians over the stupid video, their silence about the suppression of free speech that continues in egypt, is damning, and it is an indictment of this administration for continuing to back what these democracy movements activists are calling the new pharaoh. >> sean: well, that's interesting, because drudge had an interesting piece up on his site. is morsi about to turn egypt into the new iran? >> well, look, if you want to know what the blueprint for an islamic califate wit look at egt now. this is exactly playing into the hands of the muslim brotherhood. >> sean: why doesn't the administration see the danger? this is a muslim brotherhood guy, we're giving them billions of treatments, hillary treats him, gives him gravitas, and meanwhile he's turning into a dictator by our very eyes, and there's utter silence. why do they not see the danger that he's a radical islamist that that possesse poses to thee world? >> they see it. >> sean: they see it? >> of course

you are seeing people who are christians believing in jesus christ.ooking at a totality of issues to make a decision based upon my children, education, poverty, all those kind of things. and when we continue to move in, bring one they are specktive. wait a minute, what about -- we have more christian voices beyond the graphics. >> he makes an important point on the bible, it is not just leviticus. dan has written about this, for the first time we had three of the four people in the top ticket not protestants. talk about trying to form a more perfect union. that's an extraordinary threshhold we crossed but didn't spend a lot of time talking about but it is a remarkable story. >> thank you for putting your piece on cnn.com. we appreciate that. let's go back to john berman. >>> now to a name you'll hear a lot about this week. tammy baldwin made history twice as the first openly gay politician and first woman from wisconsin elected to the u.s. senate. s tommy thompson to tammy baldwin, here's her acceptance speech. >> i am openly aware that i'll be the fi

secular and christian representatives boycotted the vote. they had already withdrawn from the assembly weeks ago. in a television interview, morsi again tried to appease the opposition forces. he said the sweeping forces to granted himself last week will only remain until a constitution goes into effect, but that is not enough for his opponents who have vowed to keep on protesting. >> those protests have been growing steadily all day. let's bring now our correspondent live from cairo. just how divided is -- right now? is there any common ground at all between the muslim brotherhood in egypt's secular and christian communities? >> the common ground seems to be really a difficult thing these days. we will have two demonstrations in cairo tomorrow. protesters will stay overnight in tahrir square. these of the leftist activists. on the other side, we see the muslim brotherhood on the western side of the line. this will be basically a simple tomorrow of how polarized the country is in this latest decision, and by pushing through this constitution

and even if we did have only christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-christian from the united states of america, whose christianity would we teach in the schools? >> now, president obama, of course, made history in 2008 when he became the first african-american president in u.s. history, you know, there is another faster thing at work here in this election, and that is getting less attention. in 2012, consider this for the first time, there are no white protestants on the presidential ballot, brian. that is a first in american history. >> all right, tom, let's dig deeper into religion and the elect. joining us now to get more insight this evening, dr. robert jones, the ceo and co- founder of the public religion research institute. dr. jones, thank you for coming in. >> hi, thank you for having me. >> there was a time when it was said that the country would never elect a catholic and jfk came along. there is a time when they said that the people would not elect an african-american anden that president obama came along. doesn't seem like mitt romney's mormonisms not playing a bi