gop strategist mary matalin, and david fromm, author of "why romney lost and what the gop can do aboutit." president obama and speaker boehner have said a lot of right things talking about compromise and cooperation, but on taxes, it seems the gap between the two sides is as big as ever, doesn't it? did the election not change anything? >> the election changed a lot. the election changed the underlying power dynamic between the two parties. you know that great line of al capone's, you can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can get with a kind word alone? the president now has a gun in his hand. the bush tax cuts expire and that makes the republicans sweat. it's a consequence of losing elections, and it's going to be a very uncomfortable month for the two parties. >> mary, what i don't understand, i hear from a lot of republicans, well, the president doesn't have a mandate on this, but both republicans and democrats for a month now have been saying, look, the choice was very clear between these two men. they couldn't be more different. people have said on our program, and yet

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we have a place called fox news that is sort of like this right wing -- i don't know what did david frommet of touch with the facts. they're actively trafficking conspiracy theories over there. the affair is somehow connected to the cover-up and his personal thing was somehow orchestrated to keep him in line. how far down this rabbit hole are we going? >> i don't know. to begin with, i find the whole overramping theory a little bewildering. the administration wanted to downplay the terrorism part of this because it was inconsistent with the -- we've been successful going after al-qaeda narrative. the problem with that, of course, is if the administration had focused on the terrorism aspect and risked disclosing classified information et cetera, it would have then been accused of playing the terrorism card, an effort to get the president to rally around. >> stephanie: how does that jive with the president saying the next day act of terror. >> exactly. we're playing over in a congress the whole debate he had with mitt romney over when it was called terrorism and what the significance of that

i was lied to by the--as david fromm said, from the conservative entertainment establishment, the conservativestablishment. they lied to the donors. they lied to the base. they lied to everyone. >> jennifer: that is pretty condemning. the question is do you think the rational republicans are catching on to fox news propaganda? >> they might have caught on, but there is going to be a tug-of-war. fox news is not going to give up it's authority. it's interesting that people are saying, i was lied to. come on, all you had to do was click over to nate silver's site and see what empirical evidence looks like. these are people who were voluntarily lied to. though bought into it and now they're bitter that they were lied to. >> jennifer: they should have been reading it, it's clear to all of us. our final question really fast according to "the new york times," david carr, this election was the most fact-checked in history. >> that's right. >> jennifer: do you think the president's re-election proves that voters were not dupe by all of that, that they really did get the message? i wonder how much the m

. >> and unless you're the house republican majority, in which case maybe they don't, david fromme, aovering conservative of sorts made a political observation that in the last six presidential races, republicans have won a majority of the votes, exactly once in 2004. here we are again in a post-minority moment, and they are acting like they have the biggest mandate ever. >> yeah. you know, they're asking for the cranberry sauce when they need to cook the turkey first. they need to have the deal done, do the work, and then think about the rest of the agenda. all the trimmings of the, you know, health care and everything else they want to do. first thing's first. compromise. they know this is going to happen. this is the head fake. this is them saying, we really are trying to go for something else, but first of all, we've actually got to compromise because we lost. >> who's the head fake for? >> well, i think it's for people like rush limbaugh, to be honest. they've got to dress this up. people like grover norquist. in the end they are not going to vote for a tax rise. technically they

i've been interested to see the republicans, the sensible reasonable moderate republicans like david frommesterday who explained on the daily beast who explained why he is voting for romney the republican party is irrational, destructive, i don't want obama care repealed. he goes on and on this whole list of things. and that's why i'm voting for obama. to me, if indeed governor romney loses, the -- how this fissure between the mainstream and the tail that is wagging its dog, the tea party, how that's going to play out. as you say, eric, there will be conservatives saying oh, we should have nominated santorum. but it's obviously a more complicated problem for them than that. and it's going to be, again, if indeed the president is re-elected, the republican arguments afterward are going to be fascinating. >> you know what they need? they need an impassioned centrist in the republican party that can speak from his or her loins. i just wanted to say the word loins again for everybody watching this broadcast. after the break, despite its well documented issues courting the women's vote, team ro

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david fromm i saw him ones through the whole campaign cycle.an hannity talking about comprehensive immigration reform in right-wing world. now a warning? >> now a warning? >> stephanie: we really shouldn't sound so harsh huh? what? >> caller: they totally flip flop. papa john's wants to use obama as an excuse. if they're in business for two more years i'll be surprised and obama-care will be the excuse into. >> stephanie: all you have to do is looking at that gin oh ormous big-a ass house. >> i'm maintaining that all of these business who is say they're going to be in trouble if obama-care goes through, they're in trouble any way. >> stephanie: a lot of this is revenge firings, it's ridiculous bitterness. it's the same obama derangement syndrome we've been seeing. people are losing their their--bleep--in different ways and they're making a political point by firing people. are you telling me that their businesses changed between monday and thursday that they had to layoff--really? really. mason in ohio, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi

david fromm held up romney's latest comments as emblematic of his failed campaign.stuff. it was a referendum of creating jobs. we lost votes because voters did not believe the magic of upper upper--wow. i love the latino vote. you just probably lost it for the next decade, thanks, mittens. romney-- >> i love firing people. >> stephanie: making it harder for the party to move forward. the gifts comments getting play in the hispanic media will be well aware of what republicans are saying as romney's presidential misstep. he's gaffing even after he's done. what a fufus. >> he needs some gaffers tape over his mouth. >> stephanie: romney's gift comments indicates he misread the election as a results. that view of the american people of the election is at odds of the truth of what happened last week said jay carney. thank you. [applause] haley barber at the republican governor's convention. >> we have to give our political organizational activity a very serious-- >> enema? >> proke toproke to go >> proctology exam. >> stephanie: listen to this guy. suspected voter fraud b

bush, david fromme. first here's bill karins with his take on the forecast.ooking like this weekends? give us good news. >> i think i'm done giving everyone bad news. good friday morning. it looks like the northeast finally storm free, ten days at least, and the warm-up begins. this is it, one of the last really cold mornings for all those still without power, still struggling to get back to normalcy. temperatures are in the 20z and 30s. windchills in the area affected by the two big storms. the weather pattern change is under way. all the warm air in the middle of the country headed east. all the cold air leaving. that leaves our friends on the west coast with a decent-sized storm to deal with. lots of snow this upcoming 24 to 48 hours. especially in montana and north dakota. and right through the mountainous areas there of utah, also colorado. i know telluride's going to get dumped on. even northern california, some of the mountains getting snow the next 48 hours. here's your forecast for your weekend. east coast, it warms up as we go throughout the day tod