i'd like to get a special thanks to john harrington for pulling this together, to william black for is working this panel, and the aba international section for putting on this terrific program, a topic that i consider to be one of the biggest, scariest topics of our time. for those of you that are familiar with this topic, you may share some of my sentiments. i'm reluctant to say this on the public record, but quite frankly i'm terrified. and i trust at the end of this you will be as well. the first time that a realize that cyberwar and terrorism was a hot topic was when the national research council put out to scholarly publications on cyberwar, while at the same time "vanity fair" had cyberwar on the front page along with our best friends the british royals, kate and we'll. that tells you we're covering both ends of the spectrum. as we know, the director of national intelligence, mike mcconnell, famously said, we would lose a cyberwar if it took place. i think the canadians would win but i'm not so sure about the americans. this thing is like an obvious question. is cyberwar and ter

thank you to john harrington and the other panelists here. so i do want to leave some time for questions, so i'm going to try to offer up a few observations about this topic, how we talk about cyberwarfare and cyberattacks and maybe break out those concepts of it, talk a little bit about the international legal framework that's relevant here and offer up a few thoughts and observations that might generate some discussion relative to domestic laws in this area. so one thing that's interesting to me is the press accounts often use the word cyberattack. there's been some cyberattack on a company on a business or some institution. and that's fine, but they often mean different things. sometimes they mean there's been an infiltration into a network for criminal purposes. there's been a criminal offense. sometimes they mean there has been some sort of espionage activities that also is likely a criminal event. we have seen lots of, though as you've heard were starting to use the perhaps more cyberattacks that are maybe something like an armed attack

let's find out and ask john harrington, ceo of harrington investment, socially responsible investmenton bucks in target stocks. >> it's good to be here. the main issue is whether we honor our employees as stockholders or as shareholders, and also look at all the other stakeholders, which include not only employees and customers, it's probably about time we begin to sort of reduce the frenziness around commercialization of human being. >> are you incensed enough you would sell target stock if they don't yield to your demands? >> i think that's an issue we'll take down the road. the main thing is, we are engaged in shareholder advocacy. the main thing for us is making sure that management knows we're concerned about this insanity that goes on every thanksgiving and christmas. we need to -- employees only have three days a year, to have for holidays. we need to think about them also. >> i totally understand. i'm all for family. looking at this 100% from a commercial point of view, as a shareholder you want the company to make profits, right, to make more sales by opening on thanksgiving,

harrington cbs 5. >> it's going to be quite the mess to clean up. thank you elizabeth. >>> a bizarre twist in the scandal involving david petreaus. the investigation now involves general johnllen who replaced petreaus as the top u.s. commander in afghanistan and last night the fbi searched the north carolina home of paula broadwell, she's the biographer with whom petreaus had an affair. tara mergener has the latest from washington. >> reporter: general john allen, top u.s. commander in afghanistan is linked to the scandal involving former cia chief david petreaus. federal investigators are looking into inappropriate e- mail communications between allen and tampa socialite jill kelley. she is the woman who complained to the fbi about receiving threatening e-mails from paula broadwell, petreaus' girlfriend. petreaus resigned friday after his affair with broadwell became public. officials have told cbs news that details from the case began to surface in june when broadwell e-mailed kelley telling her to stay away from petreaus. the a senior official says the latest investigation centers on 20 to 30,000 pages of e-mails and documents from the communications with kelley. he's i

baptism of patrick kennedy's baby and john kerry's private party for last year stanley cup champion boston bruins. central to all of that access is gerald harrington, a finance official on kerri's 2004 presidential campaign. he extended her a loan worth $300,000 according to documents filed in the bankruptcy which shows a $3.6 million debt. records show her sister kelley is a party to ninelving debts, mortgages, and multi million dollar foreclosures. >> nothing wrong with private citizens forging all of those friendships and connections and a former legal counsel at the defense department told cbs the debt and legal issues should have been huge red flags for the officials. >> thanks so much, cheryl. now we turn to the so-called fiscal cliff, the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at the start of the year if congress and the president can't cut a deal. after the first round of talks on friday, the tone at least was positive. >> my hope is this is going to be the beginning of a fruitful process where we're able to come to an agreement that will reduce our deficit and in a balanced way, that we will deal with some of these l