joining us now for some insight is andy potter. he is a state vice president in the michigan corrections labor union. mr. potter himself is a republican, which makes me particularly grate to feel have a chance to talk to you tonight. so thank you for being here. >> absolutely. >> you are republican. your republican party is poised to strip union rights in a way that they didn't campaign on and that nobody really saw coming. why do you support union rights and what do you think is going on with your party? >> well, i support union rights because i've seen throughout the years the good that they have done in bringing to light some of the injustices that happened even in the workplace along with elected politicians. they create leverage and give regular citizens and middle class individuals the right to have a say so when it comes to politics and hold their elected politicians accountable. and as far as the republican party goes, it's a sad day in michigan. they're going to with the swipe of a pen, they're going to erase many generati

joining me is andy potter, vice president of the michigan corrections organization and chair of seiu'slican national advisory committee. good to have you here. because law makers in michigan attached a spending measure to the right to work bills, they can't be rescinded through a referendum but as politico is pointing out, labor unions are staging a counter attack on this. explain why right to work for people, that's supposed to be for the good of the people, would not therefore be put up for a right to be voted on by the people, and now seems entrenched in the fact that it can't go to a referendum. >> well, outside of the referendum, we are ramping up different kinds of opportunities. we are going to reach out to community partners and we are going to be continuing the conversation for two years until we can use the ballot system as well so that everything from legal possibilities to outreach and out speaking, making sure our message gets heard. >> as we talk about the fact that this is happening in a blue state like michigan, the first of its kind, what do labor organizations like yo

andy potter, thank you. after the break, we'll get the other side.ks right to work is a good thing for michigan. stay with us. . one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. if you're a man with low testosterone, you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cance

andy potter is a republican committee chairman of sesu and we spoke with him earlier. >> you are a republican, and you are opposed to this right to work. so tell me why? >> i am because i believe that through generations here in michigan we've been able to enjoy a good middle class with a good wage and some healthcare. and that's all going to be wiped away with the swipe of a pen. and whether you are rich or poor, doesn't matter, democrat or republican. you have to ask yourself about the process of being used here in order to pass through some bills that are absolutely detrimental to this state and are going to divide the state. they are divisive. i'm using the governor's words here. for a long time he's used that word divisive, and as a republican i trusted him, i listened to him, my friends and family list toned him. now we all know what is really going on and we wish they would come out and call it what it is here. >> which is what? union busting? >> which is absolutely union busting. and they keep pointing their finishingtories the unions and saying that's why they can't bring in good job