archaeologist warren barbour is trying to figure out why.barbour: figurines were found primarily in refuse, i think, for a number of possible reasons. first, they may have lost their sanctity and they had to be constantly replaced, so you just tossed them out. if they were used for a particular ritual, on a particular fiesta of a particular month, and then you'd -- sort of a planned obsolescence where they'd have to be replaced constantly. secondly, they may have been purposely broken. some of my colleagues believe that these were used and then purposely broken. and the other possibility, which sometimes i grip the bed at night thinking about, is that perhaps some of these are just toys and may have been -- um.person-handled by kids to the point that they break very easily. keach: barbour has discovered that many of the fragments were actually the parts of marionettes. their arms and legs would have been attached by string. large figures are called "hosts" because the body always contains one or more "guests" inside. archaeologists think tha

states and they weren't -- [inaudible] >> well, but atwater was haley barbour's age. they were the same generation. and thurmond had an important, i mean, thurmond was around a long time. 48 years in the senate. but it's more about the fact that haley barbour is a mississippi rather than south carolina. that he wasn't in this book. any other questions? thank you all again -- yes? >> i have one question. you were criticized by a man in "the wall street journal" "wall street journal" -- >> oh, i'm so glad you brought this up. [laughter] i didn't ask them to ask this question. >> his name is lee -- >> lee edwards. >> lee edwards. >> that's right. >> who is also a biographer, as you are. >> and he's a historian. he's written several histories of the conservative movement. he himself has been a member of the conservative movement, an important person in that. >> jealousy? >> no, it's not jealousy, i can do that. but one thing about mr. edwards being asked to write that review, is that one of the things he takes issue with is i call him from his ghost writer because -- it w

joining us now, former mississippi governor and former rnc chair, haley barbour. as always, thank you, sir. >> thank you, larry. >> it's hard to figure. i have been around not as long as you, but i have been around. you were at the top of the world, november 2010. then look what happens in november 2012. in the middle of those two dates is a very anemic economy. how did the gop go from here to here? how did that happen? >> well, larry, you put your finger on why the chair of the rnc has done what he's done to order a very serious in depth comprehensive, iny opinion, ruthless view of why we lost the presidential election. many of us believe we should have won. certainly we could have won. that's what this is going to be about -- technology, message. it's going to be very inclusive to let people participate in it. but you have asked the right question. and the party is going to do its very dead level best to get to the bottom of it so we'll have an answer and it won't happen again. >> did we lose some of it -- 2010 messages? for example, spending reduction, deficit

the question is, though, we have haley barbour up next.stion for haley barbour is, he's taken a leadership role in the rnc, how do we avoid this catastrophe as republicans four years from now. you have to look at the playing field. i could tell you four years ago jeb wasn't going to jump in he thought the party was out of control. i could tell you chris christie, two years ago wasn't going to jump in. what is going to make these people more likely to jump in four years from now. you can sit there and not worry about it. for people that don't want this to continue for years, we can't. >> it wasn't pot. you're on meth. >> the question i think you can be asking for 2016 and whatever is not the players, but indeed the process. here, you can look back to the past because we know what happened. when bill clinton ran in 1992, he challenged the party. he said, you are wrong on a lot of stuff. the american people -- almost exact quote crushed us neither with their pocketbooks or security. he brought them an agenda. whoever you want to analyze four

one of five republicans leading this initiative along with former governor barbour is another. i want to play what he had to say today on "morning joe." >> i hear all this mandate talk but the president got less than 51% of the vote. and he won because he made mitt romney unacceptable. he didn't run on his record. >> barbour seems to be blaming the president for what ailed mitt romney and the gop. could this review turn back into the blame game of sorts and they the democrats made us look bad? >> thomas, thanks a lot for having me. and, no, we're not about a graham game, we're about assessing the republican party and all of our entities. what we did right and what we did to improve on. of course, we have some issues that we have to look at. so it's not about a blame game. it's about a number of areas that we need to get better at. >> when the review as i understand it is going to take a look at eight key areas, just some of those, the ground game, the messaging, demographics, lessoned learned from the democratic campaign tactics, "the washington post" jean robinson writes that

and haley barbour and other conserves who like exchanges look, this way a business can go to individualee and say here is 10,000 bucks. you go out to the exchange you get best policy you want. you're the better judge what is best for you. that is kind of use of the exchange going to become something we'll see all over the united states? >> well it's the discussion we're going to have, david in this grand bargain and deficit reduction because the treasury would recognize about 200 plus billion dollars if the employer tax exclusion went away and employers, if you think about it, they don't participate in your life insurance decisions, your auto insurance but throughout wage price control ledge -- legislation 80 years ago they ended up with health benefits. david: let me put a fine point on it. there may be a way to equalize tax treatment with health programs, between employers and employees? go ahead. >> that is it key discussion on the table. why would a employer expense this when individuals who buy it on their own can't? david: paul keckley, deloitte center for health solutions executi

here's former rnc chair haley barbour today on "morning joe." >> what are the lessons?egative campaigns still work and one of the first rules of politics still holds. any attack unanswered is an attack admitted. >> governor barbour was talking there about negative ads against mitt romney that the romney campaign did not answer. joining me now republican strategist and contributor, danny vargas. it is interesting that they have assembled this group of five people. reflection is always wise. we have talked about the fact that the reflection has to be outreach to the latino community and not as a monolithic group of people but we know as a valuable voting bloc of the future of this country. period. >> a valuable and growing voting bloc. looking to the future -- >> that's in the value of the growth there. >> the interesting thing is and taking place at the national level, the state level, local level throughout this country. i think it's necessary and warranted and i think it's a good thing but i made the comment recently and said imagine 2050 with a republican president an

also helps that he has folks like haley barbour, tom corker, susan collins, olympia snow. they're obviously moderates, but they're saying we have to raise the rates, and that other thing, reality, which is the rates are going to go up regardless of whether you really want them to or not. i mean, in terms of -- david mentioned the speakership question. to what degree do you guys have a sense that there is any sort of currency to this threat from the aircraft ericksons of the world to oust him from the. >> i think it's noise. it's worth paying attention to. >> it's not that there will be another speaker who will run against him, cantor or anyone else, but if 20 tea party members of the house decide to vote present on january 3rd, he will not become speaker. he can be delayed. he can be embarrassed. a lot of things can happen without someone having to challenge him. you can vote for anyone for speaker. you can vote for dafy duck. >> david corn. >> alex wagner, mark, jim, or anyone. or present. he still has to have his caucus behind him to be fully behind him to become speaker

we'll get reaction from former mississippi governor haley barbour. >>> and year-end taxes.iscal cliff can have on your tax return. that and more coming up on "cbs this morning." that's it for this morning. i'm off to find my "end of the world party. appreciate you watching. i'm terrell brown in new york. take care, everybody. have a great weekend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com and i'm michelle griego. tis 4:-- >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> it's friday, december 21st and we're all still here. >> i'm brian hackney. >> i'm michelle griego. we have developing news right now in antioch where police are searching for a second suspect after a robbery police chase and this fiery crash. officials say they robbed the bonfair market on tenth street and then they drove off. police chased them and the suspect's car crashed and burst into flames. one suspect was arrested but police are still trying to find the second suspect. >>> heavy rain and wind are on tap this morning. lawrence karnow has the forecast. >> it's a very slow-moving storm system but we a

for drawing attention to it for standing up to the bullies at fox so-called news the bad matt barr barbour is the host of a christian talk radio talk show and on yesterday's episode he was talking about the so-called war on christmas by atheist groups and he gave his take on the best way to deal with atheists is with. what do you do with a bully if a bully keeps getting his way in intimidating kids on the playground and nobody stands up for themselves then the bully is encouraged to embolden and continues to bully more and more people but when a little kid is being bullied and he turns around and punches the bully in the mouth metaphorically speaking of course then the bully oftentimes is proven to be a paper tiger. arguing that physical violence is the best way to solve a problem pretty sure that makes someone a bully and a very very ugly justice antonin scalia in a surprise in a speech at princeton university yesterday scalia stood by remarks he had previously made equating homosexuality with murder and beastly al. and asked by a student about the comments scully remarked if we cannot ha

because separate prosecutorial misconduct situation during lawyers say prosecutors tried to intimidate barbour into testifying for the government. prosecutors say that the visit was proper. >> the u.s. senate is mourning the loss of a long serving member. longtime ally senator daniel inouye died monday of respiratory complications. he was 88 years old. the democrat and decorated war veteran was elected to the house in 1959 and moved to the senate three years later. as president pro tem of the senate, inouye was third in line to the presidency, which now passes to vermont senator patrick leahy. >> this program -- instagram may close to having ads. >> the may include your pictures. the facebook photos service says it is changing the terms of service. "a los angeles times" report is the most notable one is instagram and pay them to use your photos on a more information in ads -- but the companies will pay instagram but not pay you. a lot of people up in arms. >> there is a close call for a man in portland, oregon. >> nearly crushed to death by a dump truck. he was sleeping in a dumpster and along

former governor haley barbourileyley barbour is with us. welcome. >> thank you. >> does that mean we're going over the fiscal cliff? >> they'll have to. the house previously passed legislation to continue the tax cuts. the house yesterday passed legislation to avert the sequestration. now the question is will the democrats in the senate or the president accept that or come back with some other offer. the house has already done two things necessary to avert the fiscal cliff and the sequestration. i wish they had passed what they did last night. >> you were saying to the republicans i would have voted with him. >> i would have voted with him and i'll tell you why. what they voted on or what they considered yesterday would have never become law but it would have put the ball at the other end of the court and shown the american people look the republicans have bent over backwards, they think raising taxes is terrible, that it's going to hurt the economy and going to cost jobs but they held their nose and compromised. there have been no compromi

. >> and tell introducedad sandy barbour introduced sonny dykes today at memorial stadium (cheers & applausettdykes comes from the wac - and his louisiana tech team led the nation in scoring, total offense and first downsbut their defense was way below average he will try to put points on the board. this is going to be a long arduous process sonny dykes.... i know that that is going to drive was every day. when we come to work over goal is not only going to be to get to the rose bowl but to win it. >> i will tell you but when he walked out of the room, i said to myself i think that is the guy buta big media presence in berkeley for the press conference. dykes replaces jeff tedford who was the winningest coach in cal history i do not like guys that come in and are full of bluster if they do not back it up. and also, if they are dull? >> he just got here. >> maybe he could be blustery or may be quiet. >> and you prefer somebody with a big name? >> and yes, i had to do some research i would just say that i know about them. i guess i'm just a bad guy. and he will do a great guy. and remember tha

. >> -- speak to that because i've said clearly and haley barbour has said clearly, if i know there arebe real cuts in medicare -- >> right. >> -- real cuts in social security cuts to sustain those programs, then we can talk about a deal. we can talk about 37%. >> absolutely, joe. >> we can talk a lot of different things. >> we're on the exact same page there, and that's exactly what i was referencing when i made the statement that i did about what the republicans are expecting. i appreciate steve, you know, rattling off $320 billion in entitlement cuts, but is that in medicare and medicaid? is it raising the eligibility age? is it means testing? how are those cuts manifested? are they real? and steve, you know very well that in washington when you're talking about obligating a future congress to make cuts, that's not a deal. and that's the same hook that republicans have always gotten hung on in previous negotiations with democrats when rate increases are on the table. so republicans are saying, look, we'll go 37%. we may even talk about 39%, but we want to see real cuts that are right

former mississippi governor who is a realist, haley barbour, planted him in the realist camp, and even rush limbaugh has acknowledged republicans' weak position. let's listen to both. >> as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if in return we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform, if you have the whole package. i would hold my nose. >> what i'm saying is i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what's going to happen. we don't have the leverage, the power isn't there. >> talk about a decisive move. we got him in the realist category, it's a strange brew. then the ideologues. i thought rush was always there. but not this time. they say avoid tax increases at all costs. here is kentucky senator rand paul. let's listen. >> i think the president's got it exactly backwards. he's adamant about raising taxes, and he's dead wrong. >> what do you think of mr. boehner's idea, cap deductions and get $800 billion in revenues. does that make any sense? >> it's a tax increase. it's a bad idea. >> what kind of questi

you know congressman ron barbour, who was congresswoman giffords' assistant and was wounded that day. he has had 20 years of experience working in the community. he understands the gun violence issue and thinks the only way to keep the high-performance magazines out of the hands of people with mental health challenges is to keep them out of the hands of everyone. i look forward to reading the full statement. chris murphy came out of the funeral and this is what he twisted. he comes out of the district of newtown. "walking out of another funeral, i was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting, tone-deaf statement i have ever seen. walking out of another funeral, i was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting, tone-deaf statement i have ever seen." thank you all very much. >> on friday, president obama vowed that he would extend tax cuts for most americans by january. his remarks came as congress left washington without a plan and to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president met with senate majority leader harry reid and he also spoke with house majority leader john boehner. he ho

rnc's henry barbour, zor fonalledas, glenn mccall. eight key areas including campaign and ground game and messagin messaging, fund-raising and democrats. will autopsy efforts satisfy grassroots conservatives who believe they're simply in the business of making money. conservative outlets have drawn attention to the fact that a third of the money the rnc spent on vendors were paid to one telemarketing firm. red state blogger erick erickson has made similar accusations about the consultant class. would the rnc have served itself better to have someone who was willing to break china on that vibe. are those five folks willing to break china? we know ericsson is. >>>kki haley is holding a news conference at noon. we do at least now know one thing about what she's up to. yesterday haley released a statement saying the state would be best served by a u.s. senator who would work hard day in and day out. same quote, accordingly, i reject the option of a place holder. she is it going to be in tim scott's district, that is why there is some bubb

then there's republican committee man henry barbour. he tweeted either it's going to be a historic dem turnout or the polls are too waited. another read, keep celebrating prematurely. america does not want to vote for obama. hmm, i hope this review goes better than the election predictions. joining me now, washington correspondent for news week and dana millbank, columnist for the washington post. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> so the republicans have a blue ribbon panel. do you think they are ready to learn the lessons of this election? >> i think that you can disregard everything these guys said leading up to the election because they talk a good game and they have to have the, you know, bravado and whatnot. now, they really want to be back in power. and they've got to sit down and hammer out what's going to get them there. the problem is, the party can't decide. half of them think it's because mitt romney is too liberal and wasn't enough of a kind of d distinction from obama and half of them think he was just a lo

i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemyctory. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of something like their sexual orientation. >> let me ask you this, then -- >> yeah. >> why not do the right thing? when does winning an election supersede doing the right thing? >> it's principle and pragmatism. it's a combination of the two. let's start with principle. the first three republicans on the r.m.a., the respect for marriage act. the second was richard hanna of new york. long story short is that it's okay, the water's fine, come on in. stand on your principle because i know there's a number of house and senate members that should be on this bill that are not on this bill yet. >> you're stepping down. i saw it cross the wires today. >>

i'm going to quote a paraphrase, former chairman of the rnc, haley barbour said, purity is the enemyy. and what he was getting at is something we have been saying for quite a while. let's win on the corollaries that we agree upon. we agree upon economic freedom, strong national security. we agree upon the core conservative tenets of individual liberty and individual responsibility. let's not isolate or separate fellow americans because of something like their sexual orientation. >> let me ask you this, then -- >> yeah. >> why not do the right thing? when does winning an election supersede doing the right thing? >> it's principle and pragmatism. it's a combination of the two. let's start with principle. the first three republicans on the r.m.a., the respect for marriage act. the second was richard hanna of new york. long story short is that it's okay, the water's fine, come on in. stand on your principle because i know there's a number of house and senate members that should be on this bill that are not on this bill yet. >> you're stepping down. i saw it cross the wires today. >> yep.

how effective will it be when the only recognizable names are ari fleischer and haley barbour's nephewry who believe the polls are skewed against mitt romney. >> i don't agree with that. i think politics is about addition not subtraction. we did a very bad job with outreach with people of color, we alienated college educated women, the gay vote and the hispanic vote. if the republicans are serious about growing as a party and about moving forward not only for 2014 but the presidential election, we need to grow and expand our base and we didn't do it this time. >> when the election was in process, why were you not standing up and condemning publicly some of the things that were repeatedly being said that were mildly racist, deliberately sexist, often divisive of people. why didn't you stand up and -- >> quite to the contrary. i have been very, very difficulty ebt db. >> you have been on the show regularly -- >> i have been on other networks and shows. >> we're not interested in those. >> of course not. >> sorry. >> but i've been very consistent about saying the republicans have done a t

some of the context of it, boehner is really in that group along with people like jeb bush and haley barbour and there are going to be a lot of forces who want to see that group fail. >> rose: you knee what is interesting on the republican side in terms of fiewp presidential aspirants is marco rubio. >> and he is trying to walk a feign line, keeping those conservatives of the never give up, never surrender category, at least those who want an immigration bill in his camp while also reaching out to those moderates and this is going to be a very interesting test, can you walk that tightrope or walk through that minefield and have success? i think he may be the leader who is able to reach an agreement on an immigration bill and that will give him a big impetus forward. but whether he can navigate through the fiscal matters but also some of these social manners after he fell a little bit flat by suggesting he didn't know how old the earth was, that shows you that he has got a little work to do. >> rose: who else do you like on the republican side? >> i am still dash this book takes some real sho

this campaign was effectively the made in the spring and to find him, in the words of hailey barbour, as "an out of touch politician married to a known equestrian." that was in may, june, july. host: and even before that, the republican primary did a good job defining him and the obama camp only had to do the reminders. guest: absolutely and talking and about his time at bain capital started that. one of the laments of republicans is that the primary went too long and romney did not start the general until mid or late april. and then there were just too many debates, too many marginal issues, marginal characters and it hurt the party. i don't know how you fix that in the future. you can take the winner-take-all vs proportional type of the primary. of long as you have an ambitious candidate that can get attention, you're going to have a primary process. i'm not sure how much can be done about that. host: here is the sideline again from "the boston globe." the bravest error of the campaign, not letting the voters in on the real paul, mitt romney. guest: sometimes it did not quite liked

>> chris, hail by barbour mentioned tax reform. that's what he would exchange in increase on the tax rates. that is on the table. president obama has repeatedly said as have congressional democrats, we need to deal with tax reform. look at the things that democrats have said need to be a part of this deal and agree should be paurt of this deal. significant spending cuts. making sure that we're not jeopardizing our future by, you know, putting in dramatic cuts to education and health care and innovation. we've got to have balanced spending cuts. we have to make sure we bring savings out of entitlement programs like we did with the affordable care act. $716 billion in savinging out of medicare and added eight years of insolvency when we passed the affordable care act. president obama put $360 billion on n. savings on the table in his proposal to the republicans. so we've got it all on the table. the republicans have given us a letter with a, you know, sort of vague outline of five things that they want to consider. tax reform is impo

haley barbour from the great state of mississippi.once said -- he said this at cpac in 2010, the political action conference, if you see i lose 40 pounds, you'll know i'm either running or got cancer, which is a really awful sort of way of saying it, but the point being, what would al gore gained a lot of weight after he lost in 2000. people said, oh, that's a signal he is not going to try again. there is a direct link that people make between the sort of vigor and healthful look of the president and whether or not they're viable in office, and is it a fairness issue when we are saying the troops they command can't be overweight? >> but he is not going to be sent into harm's way to go fight in iraq or in any new war he might start. i don't think that that's exactly a fair analogy, and i do think he is somebody who has pursued his office vigorously. he gets into fights on the jersey shore. he is very active. he is clearly able to do his job. >> that's probably not a -- it might be -- >> you have covered this a fair amount. is it in a s

i need to walk out my front door to a good hiking trail to the i like the ability to barbour. but money is short for any vital necessity. in visby i've always been able to trade one of my books for a bottle of wine or all three. money is required but bargaining is accepted. no houses are quite alike. in fact they are spectacularly different reflecting the individual owners that built them more than 100 years ago and the streets are so narrow that driving down then the mayor in work to avoid putting them off and the gas occasionally doubling the railings. and each homeowner must adapt to the nuances of his or her home and no manual exists to help. local plumbers and electricians have to throw the train of the window because no job in town resembles that of a modern-day house. hang on the second. >> every small town has a certain intangibles to unite its people in the case of visby it is the a4a mentioned a creature on the southern edge of town known as the pit. it sits at the edge of town like cancer this tumor that no one wants to talk about half a mile wide almost a mile long

haley barbour in mississippi, these governors are awesome. we work with them everyday. but i think if if you want to get cost and quality into health care, if you want to fix education in this country, if you want to drive energy, we can help massively. take health care. we have a framework in place called the affordable care act, whatever you want to call it. but if business participates to try to drive cost and quality, this system will be a lot better than if we stay on the sidelines and don't participate. so i think business -- meaning what about health care reform? >> we still have -- >> rose: you have to be a voice in trying to figure out what the best possible system is? >> the secretary of health and human services can cut reimbursement to medicare payments. that cost flows over to private industry, right? so unless we are on our game, the cost of health care isn't going to go down. so i think there are these big national issues that companies like g.e. can solve. now, the last point i'd make, never be mistaken. i'd proupl to be an american. g.e. is proud to be

they are still in the process of swopping under the rug the rnc announcing the appointment of barbourads of the former chairman, and he will head up to whitewash the rnc and crossroads over what happens in the election and the failure and what it means. >> i wrote to a bungler and he told me today he is done. finished. in more money. he said i --. >> that is why the conference was canceled in january, the meeting. >> there are two things. the big picture is, doug said the republicans are in trouble. it is not just now. the friends are bad and nothing is done to reverse it. not just romney but a series of events. the image of the republican party is nasty, negative, mean. not like it was under reagan where it was nice. yes, it was strong. >> who bears the responsibility? >> a lot of people. >> all the consultants getting all this money, and the answer is the republican establishment has no vision. we have numbers, if you ask people are they for smaller or bigger government, they are for smaller. >> there is support at grass roots but they will cannot translate it. >> you have to look t

remember, haley barbour said in a committee meeting whether we should drop the name republican party. the republican party of abraham lincoln to drop its name, god forbid. so, this is a serious time for republicans and a time for reflection the we have been in worse places. host: let's go on to gun control. nra executives on the talk shows. here are the headlines. also at a news conference on friday echo something you had said earlier in the week and that is perhaps to put a security guard, some sort of police presence at every school in this country. as the former education secretary, how do you think it would be a good idea? guest: i think a decision should be made locally. if i understood the and reposition -- it is not my position. i have agreed with them in the past and disagreed in the past. i had a history back in 1989- 1990 a drugs are when i banned the importation of assault weapons. -- when i was drugczar. and i would never be forgiven by some in the nra for that. whether it was effective, an open question. i believe i have an open mind. their position is the federal governm

today, florida governor haley barbour. he said, "i would take raising rates on the top brackets if, in return, we had tax return." he wants the rates to go up on the top two brackets. as soon as republicans accept reality, middle-class families taxes will not go up. i am confident an agreement can be reached. >> [indiscernible] placeholders and cloture motions? some republicans are saying this is restricting the amendment process, and part of the reason they are threatening to filibuster. why have you chosen to pursues those -- pursue those practices? >> i have explained before, but let me give an example. we have to spend 8 to 10 senate days, a couple of weeks, to get on a bill, because they virtually oppose every time we try to get a bill. that with 10 days. with that 10 days, if we did not have to do that, there could be amendments. we arrive at a point where we do not have time to do that, when you do that hundreds of times each congress. we have done it hundreds of times in the last six years. they are crying wolf. it

today former governor haley barbour, here's what he said. i as a republican would take raising rates on the two top brackets if we had tax reform and some other things he wanted. but he wants the rate to go up on the top two brackets. as soon as the republicans accept reality and guarantee middle clats families their taxes won't go up, i'm confident an agreement will be reached. >> the last few years, you -- some republicans are saying that this is restricting the amendment process and part of the reason why they're -- that they are threaten -- threatening to filibuster. why have you chose ton purr suze those practices. >> i've explained this before. we have to spend eight to 10 days, senate days, that's a couple of weeks, to get on a bill. because they virtually oppose every time we try to get a bill. that wastes 10 days. if we didn't have to do that, we could be on a bill, there could be amendments, we arrive at a point when we don't have time to do that when you do that hundreds of times each congress. we've done it hundreds of times in t

this campaign was effectively the made in the spring and to find him, in the words of hailey barbour,s "an out of touch politician married to a known equestrian." that was in may, june, july. host: and even before that, the republican primary did a good job defining him and the obama camp only had to do the reminders. guest: absolutely and talking and about his time at bain capital started that. one of the laments of republicans is that the primary went too long and romney did not start the general until mid or late april. and then there were just too many debates, too many marginal issues, marginal characters and it hurt the party. i don't know how you fix that in the future. you can take the winner-take-all vs proportional type of the primary. of long as you have an ambitious candidate that can get attention, you're going to have a primary process. i'm not sure how much can be done about that. host: here is the sideline again from "the boston globe." the bravest error of the campaign, not letting the voters in on the real paul, mitt romney. guest: sometimes it did not quite liked wh

of the late- night calls i have to make to the governor's mansion when i was working with governor barbour. some of the barriers we ran into coming decisions that were made, some of the adjusted not make any sense and where it was within my power, we changed them. we made it much more powerful in the responses. some of them, i could not change. your proposal, i compliment you for the thoughtful works going in that. >> i can tell you i know mrs. o'malley, judge john malley, she will not care if you keep calling. -- judge o'malley. she would say yes. first of all, you are a creative administrator. i will not prolong my generosity in having you participate here. it is my hope in my community affected that we would think it's not only a bridge during very hard times but also how we work from economic development. i invite you as you are assessing not what the governors are submitting that he would consider visiting us to look at what this is so we can not only respond we can also lay the groundwork for reform to be able to really help our communities that are so hard hit but are so terrific. >

they suggested perhaps we could get haley barbour to come in and do it. alex corson said? you have quite an insight about whether you would ever have your mustache slashed. >> never trust a black man unless he's born in hawaii without a mustache. >> gene robinson, do you concur? >> is any mustache safe in the world these days? i'm scared. i'm scared. >> i don't think it is. well, congressman, how are we doing in this effort to avoid the fiscal cliff? do you think it may -- we're encouraged around here at least that the president and john boehner are going to be talking face to face. >> are we naive? >> a little bit. >> sad without a second's hesitation. >> wow! >> look, it's a simple deal, but the circumstances are not simple. and i think we're going to get a deal, on my optimistic side, we're going to get a deal. my pessimistic side is it may be later. we may do something between now and january 1st, but there is no way we're going to do what needs to be done between now and december 31st. >> is that a good thing in terms of doing the longer term? >> we've got to deal wit

all the late-night calls i had to make to the governor's mansion when i was working with governor barbour and then you know this as well, some of the barriers that we ran into, the decisions that were made, some of them just didn't make any sense and where they were in my power i changed them and we made cdbg much more flexible in the responses to katrina and rita. what i also say is some of them i couldn't change. and i think your proposal, i would really compliment you for the thoughtful work that's gone into that and is something i think you'll see reflected in the work that we're doing. >> i can tell you, i know mrs. o'malley. she's judge o'malley. she won't care if you keep calling governor o'malley at night. i'll call her now and say, are you in for the program? and she'd say, yes. but in all seriousness, first of all, you are a creative administrator. both of you are. so i won't prolong my generosity of the chair in having me participate here, but it is my hope and my prayer for my community that's affected that we would think not only of the bridge during the very hard time for in