>> well, i feel like that there is not enough questions consequ united states and it starts from the home and the home is des structing. and we don't have proper authority with the husband and wife. different situations like that. gun men are able to be we had an incident here in portland where an 11-year-old and 7-year-old were having firearms. so, it is an unfortunate situation and something has to change. >> for me, i think that the whole gun thing. it is dangerous because a lot of people are allowed to have guns. there is a deep rooted thing which is what would cause a young man to do a shooting like he did. he was a regular person? people saw him as a kind person. out of nowhere, i don't think it was so much just the guns. >> yeah, i think it is a combination of things. i want to thank you both. >> we want to go to somebody who may be able to answer those questions. they were stunned to learn he he was the gunman. a childhood friend of roberts. thank you forginning me. a difficult time for the friends and the family. >> by relative counts, this seems out of character what is you

about the irish is really my writing about myself coming to the united states and coming into contact with the united states so consequently my puerto rican friends, and some of my irish friends, although they were more circumspect, what are you doing writing about the irish? i'm writing about the united states. the irish are more interesting. they had to put up with colonialism, just as puerto rico is a colony of the united states. i also respect the fact that they have a facility with language, which i also enjoy. consequently, i wondered why this attraction to the irish. in 2004, the university of puerto rico asked me to come there and lecture and read. i immediately called my favorite cousin, and she said, what are you doing here? i told her and i said, please come to the reading, i have a book for you. she came. she said my son is getting married tomorrow at the caribbean hilton, could you please come? and i went. i hadn't seen her in 30 years. we were kids together. and after the wedding, there was a reception and she introduced me to her daughters, very beautiful girls, then i met the last one, very beautiful, green

that coupled with the fact yet again the debt is hitting the ceiling in the united states this could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states let's talk now to patrick young co-author of the gathering storm brown bear broadband good to see you patrick so how bad do you think it's going to get if not in january but in the first quarter of two thousand and thirteen. well the situation is an incredibly perilous i mean think about the history of american debt three decades ago america owed the world about nine hundred and it billion dollars now that may sound like a big number but bear in mind at the moment it borrowing a hundred billion dollars every single month the total debt in america is roughly fifteen trillion dollars i mean that's the sort of amount of money that if you put the notes end to end you get most of the way towards mars it's an absolutely rejects of mind of money and the problem we've got is you've got politicians who are still in never-never land mr obama is wanting to actually exist then the a mind of money that america can manage to borrow it's a bit like

. >> the president of the united states has made very clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> did we move the red line? why would any one be afraid of us? i forgot. >> president obama made this world safer. he restored american's respect

. >> well, i feel like that, you know, there's not enough consequences in the united states. you know, unfortunately, it starts from the home. and the home is destructing. you know, we don't have, you know, proper authority, with a husband and wife. you know, just different situations like that that gunmen are able to be able -- you know, we just had an incident here in portland, where an 11-year-old and a 7-year-old were having firearms. it's an unfortunate situation. and something has to change. >> the whole gun thing, it's dangerous. a lot of people are allowed to have guns. but i think there's a more deep-rooted thing that needs to be pointed out. and what would cause a young man, like the one that did the shooting, to do what he did? because he was just a regular person, you know? people saw him as a kind person. and just out of nowhere, he just goes and does this. so, i don't think it's so much just the guns. but what is really going on in our society? that's causing young men to do this. >> i think it is a combination of things. i want to thank you both. joslyn and all

urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary to show assad that the united states is fully willing and able to impose the consequences that he's spoken of in the event these weapons are used. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton met with her russian counter part thursday to secure russia's support. >> the international community, specifically the russians are united on this issue. >> reporter: all sides hope the first side of diplomatic issue to end the syrian war. the syrian government has promised not to use any chemical weapons against the people there but the fear is that as assad starts to topple, as the fighting increases in the suburbs of damascus he may feel cornered and no telling what he might do. >> susan mcginnis in washington on a friday morning. thank you so much. in this country president obama says cutting a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could to be done in a week but the president said that won't happen unless republicans drop their opposition to the wealthy. president obama visited a virginia family to move his cause. he maintained his hard line on tax increase. >> just to be clear i'm n

as ainsley earhart reports, the united states is promising consequences for the gas is excused against the syrian people. >> reporter: it appears there has been an alarming escalation in the syrian civil war, the country's government preparing nerve gas bombs and awaiting the orders from president assad to use them. u.s. officials relying on surveillance said there was no evidence that this had begun. >> we have sent an up mistakeable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> reporter: a senior u.s. official telling fox the gas bombs must be used within 60 days in order to be viable inform deployed. the gas could till thousands instantly. some 40,000 syrians have already lost that you are lives in the 21 month long civil war. >> the world is watching. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences. >> reporter: there is no indication u.s. troops would cross into syrian territory but the pentagon saying it would require more than 75,000 soldiers. the united nations with a dose of reality for president a

united states took no action. no action is not an option because of the consequences. if the united states put it as a priority it for the policy in the middle east and cut off the connection between assad and iran, you have to cut off the assad regime. making iran much weaker. iran and russia are the main suppliers of the assad regime. russians are still supplying and supporting the assad regime. all the assad army, it is soviet union troops. this is why i see a vital u.s. interest in ending the assad regime. the side effects might the consequences, the create more options. >> you have been talking about the international community. i think that as long as the interest of key countries like you just mentioned, russia, the only port they have outside of russian territory in syria. or after the sanctions on iran, syria became the major importer for weapons from russia. veryimportant issue for russia, as well as iran sending fighters to fight along the lines of the regime. as well as china with the issue of human rights. as long as the international community does not add

it would just be too great, the consequences to dyer, not just for the united states, but for the world economy, too, also for germany, but people do not know, and they do not like the prospect of a decision may be taking more time, may be even reaching into the year 2013. it would be a pretty bad start, a rumbly start to the new year, people think. the trading was careful. the shares lost some momentum in late trading, late european trading when the u.s. began in the negative zone, and the fact that people were nervous also demonstrated by a lot of money going into the suppose it's safe haven of german bonds and into gold. >> let's take a look at the latest market numbers for you, starting in germany. the dax ended the day just a tad up. euro stoxx 50 also made gains on the day. crossing over to new york, the picture is quite different. a lot of pessimism there. the euro gaining some ground against the dollar. it is not the only source of uncertainty in the world economy. >> a leading economic think tank says confidence is down in many german sectors compared to this time last year. th

united states. there are profound consequences internally and externally if egypt keeps going. >> do you see what's happening in egypt and in syria, for example. new rise of islamist that are against our interest. >> that's right. syria is a case where it may be a blow to iran but given what we've seen about radical suny islamist, we're replacing one bad regime with another. the implications will spread. we've seen in libya the inability of the successor government to gadhafi to control the entire territory. same in yemen. the risk could cause the entire middle east to descend into a situation of near anarchy where all the varies crisis come together. >> you talk about near anarchy. sir where syria, libya, what cae obama administration do and what are they not doing that they should do toe stabilize it. >> i don't think they're paying adequate attention. it's manifestation of the fact the president doesn't care about national security. his priorities are domestic. he turns to it when he has to like the september 11 killings in benghazi but we still don't have answers as to why enhanced security was

one of the most important things in this report in terms of long-term consequences is it says the united states can no longer depend in high-risk areas on local security forces. meaning we're going to have to have our own forces either there or close enough. >> will they let us bring them in? >> no. this is the new normal as described in this. >> it means we can't be in these posts. >> it's the world it seems. thank you. thank you as always. i call you when i need knowledge. >> i come whenever you call. >> thanks. >>> up next, david petraeus was supposed to be the top commander in afghanistan, so why was he i thought the neocons lost. apparently they're running our war operations. this is "hardball." we've got some questions. we'll be right back. >>> wow. president obama's job approval is at its highest point since >>> wow. president obama's job approval is at its highest point since the death of bin laden according to an abc news poll. 54% approve the job he's doing now. 50% say they approve of his job on the economy. that has to help as the president tries to nail down a deal with speaker boe

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and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> plus, sharp criticism from afghan president karzai. the exclusive nbc interview. why he says the u.s. is partly to blame for the growing instability in his country. >>> and the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after being treated for acute morning sickness. her royal father-in-law couldn't be happier. >> i'm not a radio station? >> grandfather, that's splendid. that's great she's getting better. >> good day, i'm chris cillizza in for andrea mitchell live in washington. behind the bluster and the rhetoric, what happens going on behind the scenes in the budget negotiations? and big breaking news in this town. senator jim demint, a tea party favorite and conservative icon, is surprisingly resigning his seat at end of the year. join me to talk about all of it, chuck todd, nbc's chief white house correspondent, political director and host of "the daily rundown and kelly o'donnell. chuck, to you. let's talk about not necessarily demint about what this means in the broader movement. he wen

the whole world is watching very closely and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences, there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> earlier today, leon panetta. we'll have a report from the pentagon on syria in a moment. >>> first, shock waves in washington. a powerful republican senator suddenly calling it quits. south carolina senator jim demint will step down december 31st to lead the heritage foundation. it's a powerful conservative think tank in washington. demint says he can be more effective outside the senate. >> a lot of my role in the senate has been stopping bad things and saying no to bad things. but we need to do more than that and tell americans what we're for. one of the mistakes i think the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us. >> senator demint, huge tea party supporter. sometimes clashes with his own party's leadership. he is leaving with four y

the fact yet again that is about to hit the ceiling could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states and patrick young says it's time to stop fueling the flames shri get kids and go america owed the world about nine hundred billion dollars now that may sound like a big number but bear in mind at the moment it's borrowing a hundred billion dollars every single month the total debt in america is roughly fifteen trillion dollars i mean that's the sort of amount of money that if you put the notes and the end you get most of the way towards mars it's an absolutely rigid mind of money and the problem we've got is you've got politicians who are still in never-never land mr obama is wanting to actually exist then the a mind of money that america can manage to borrow it's a bit like giving a drunk more vodka as i've often said and at the same time you've got the republicans who are suddenly wanting to have the local fiscal responsibility from actually having abdicated their own responsibility for many years this is a very very perilous situation now how far do you think in congress still push

consequences. in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners on the security council as well as our partnerse six-party talks and other countries in the international community, to pursue appropriate action. >> the state department said today that if kim jong-un wants to send his time and money in shooting off missiles rather than feeding his people that is his decision. analysts expect him to act swiftly to conduct a new nuclear test to capitalize on the boost the successful test of the rocket. the white house is looking to beijing for help, as usual. >> the chinese made clear their opposition and regret that it took place after it happened. we will continue to work with our international partners to ensure that the north korean regime is first i lated, that it is further punished for the violations of international obligations. >> the not koreans called on western nations to use reason and remain cool so that the situation doesn't "get to an undesirable direction." >> that is kind of them. now, someone who knows something, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations former governor of new

the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> diplomatic efforts to end the 21-month-old conflict had failed. tens of thousands of people have been killed so far. with so much at stake, senator john mccain said it may be time to take action. >> it may mean that the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria -- this may be the last warning we may get. time for talking about what me made -- what we may do may be coming to a closed. >> angelina jolie traveled to a refugee camp on thursday. she is a special envoy. it was her second official mission to the region in three months. >> president obama is at warning egypt's president that the recent violence there is unacceptable. the admonishment came after protests storming the presidential palace. muhammed marcy tried to calm the protests with a national address. the recent outbreaks of viole

>> the international community through nato and the united states say explicitly that there will be consequences. it is not a difficult thing to imagine us responding to take out their capacity to do anything with those weapons. that is an international threat and they have post. with assad and all that, that comes second with those weapons cannot be used. >> we have a treaty that says you cannot use chemical weapons. >> oh. >> it was signed in the 1990's, and a big advocate? joe biden, who said it would have the moral suasion all over the world. treaties are useless. what matters is forced. >> are we -- we -- >> hold on a second. the united states president says something will happen. do you think he cares if it is written on a treaty and a turtle bay? >> treaty? >> i am making a retroactive. . > -- retroactive point. >> making a red line is important. i am not sure with the red line is. i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> what form will the united states intervention take? >> there is no use of what brown her -- of a drone here. >> what if the weapons fall into the h

consequences. in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners on the security council, as well as ourartners in the six-party talks and other countries in the international community to pursue appropriate action. i'm happy to take a couple questions. >> reporter: my question is, what is coming after the swift, swift action of the security council? so, the issue of new sanction has been raised, obviously, but certain members of the security council is not likely to agree with a new resolution, so my question is, do you think it is possible to impose a new sanction without adopting a new resolution? do you think it is appropriate? >> well, let me say this, first of all, i've been through a number of similar council sessions on north korea and its provocative actions over the course of my tenure here. the statement that was issued today was an initial statement out of the council is one of the swiftest and strongest, if not the swiftest and strongest, that this council has issued, in that it issued a clear condemnation of this action, and it did so right away. now we go into the second p

unknown number of poisoned by radiation and in the coming months the consequences of this disaster will be felt here in the united states as millions of tons of tsunami debris some of which could be react radioactive are expected to wash up on our west coast so shouldn't we be concerned with the new job government of japan isn't taking the risks of nuclear power seriously given camps joins me now he's the radioactive waste watchdog at beyond nuclear kevin welcome back thank you sound so this new government in japan i don't understand this is sort of half a nuclear question half a political question i'm guessing you've been following this i haven't been i don't understand how any newly elected government japan two years after fukushima with the fukushima still and i want to get to that to still been tottering and some of the reactors could say oh or we're not going to cancel i mean what's what's what is going on well i think you know there's major issues at play. triple disaster of earthquake tsunami and meltdowns left japan in an economic freefall for one thing and so economic concerns may explain i mean it is a blow th

n.g.o.s if the foreign n.g.o.s in russia with the biggest consequence of this legislation was that the u.s. aid organization the united states agency for international development was shown the door from russia in september and this is definitely the follow up of this tough legislation the president did have said that everybody who wants to live by the law should live by the law and those who are calling the new legislation as repressive just don't want to live by the law also he spoke about the fight against corruption in russia which resulted in a major scandal just recently in defense ministry and agricultural ministry with the defense minister being the victim of the fight against corruption he said the prime minister said that the fight against corruption will continue even if this spoils the ruling party's image which undoubtedly happened during the defense ministry scandal is certainly the press conference the q. and a session is still continuing and we'll hopefully be having more to show more grads and sound bites of prime minister to show as the section finishes. live from. many thanks indeed it will be looking forw

revolts came, there were very few places where the united states had uneasy or even a conceivable h to come in and do something where the consequences were not dramatic or at least there could be a positive. egypt was a longtime ally and banker in the middle east, supportive of israel. tunisia was a little better, but by that point it had crossed the threshold. syria, the comparisons with libya are quite, you know, it's very different. it's multi sectarian society with lots and lots of connections to other plot powers . lebanon, israel, disrupting or changing that relationship could have all sorts of consequences which are unknown. so libya presented -- was unique in that the libyans have a popular uprising. there was a program that had been put forth by a small group of people who had put themselves forward as sort of first unofficial but increasingly official spokesman of the libyan people. this was an opportunity for essentially president obama and the united states that makes some good on much of the content of the 2009 speech which is very important. i think people are potentially losing sight of that. the second take away is t

and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence as first reported by nbc news indicates that syria's military has loaded the precursor bombs, even a tiny bomb can attack the nervous system, killing within seconds or minutes, most of syria's sophisticated weapons are from russia, syria's most powerful ally. but today, they were so alarmed about the chemical threat, they met with hillary clinton to talk about a possible future for syria without assad. >> we have been trying hard to work with russia to stop the bloodshed, and start a transition towards a post-assad future. >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if assad loses control. >> it is absolutely important that terrorist groups not obtain poss

2k3w5*d -- gadhafi made a series of agreement with the united states which he thought was going to save his regime, and there's a number of consequences of that, of those decisions, both of the u.s. and for libya, which did not turn out as he wanted. i'll go into that in a little bit more detail later. you know, i date the end of the regime really to the nature of the agreement that was made between the united states and, in particular, but the general, and libya in 2003. the fourth take away, i think, is the importance of follow-through, relating to all the points. there was a success in libya, and i've been in, and others share it, but this has been one of president obama's successes, and the danger is that once, as time goes on, as there's -- as the political vacuum moves forward and sort of -- if they don't move forward fast enough, you are going to have a major problem, and we're seeing, you can see evidence from that starting, you know, in general, i continue to be on the mystic about lib -- optimistic about libya's future. there's tremendous oil wells,78 billion proven reserves, back to the prewar production, and, you know, one

state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road... there will be consequences. >> this is a red line for the united states.m not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >>pam: u-s officials say assad could use artillery shells filled with sarin to push back opposition forces. sarin is 500 times more deadly than cyanide. one drop can kill a person in a matter of minutes. syria not the only thing on washington's mind right now. with about four weeks to go before that fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appeared at a standstill on tuesday. karin caifa tells us where everything stands. >> in the midst of a standoff with capitol hill republicans, president obama told bloomberg news that the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply doesn't add up. the >> speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about,

consequences and you will be held accountable. >> held accountable. it's unclear exactly what that means, but what about military intervention to stop the assad regime. >> the president of the united statese very clear that there will be consequences. there will be consequences. if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people. but suffice to say, we are certainly planning to take action, if that eventuality were to occur. >> a promise of action, but, again, no specifics. so, what would a military intervention look like? >> if your objective is to destroy the chemical munitions, then perhaps you can go in and bomb them or otherwise sabotage them. if your goal is to secure them and remove them so they don't fall into the hands of others and that requires boots on the ground, then that would require all sorts of logistical planning and a pretty major effort, in part because, remember, military planners have to plan for the worse case. so, even if you spend a sm

. >> the president of the united states made it clear there will be consequences.here will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentagon elaborating on what the cons -- consequences would be, but having russia back them would be a determined outcome made by the promise of president obama in dealing with russia after winning a second term as he remarked to the russian president thinking they were off microphone as they met in south korea back in march. >> after my election, i have more flexibility. >> i understand. i just need permission -- lou: a full report on the disturbing turn of events in syria and the likely price of russian cooperation on syria. another middle east dictator, egyptian leader, morsi, with a concession to the opponents inviting them to hold talks on the crisis. is that enough to appease protesters who plan larger demonstrations tomorrow? we'll be talking with fox news middle east expert while ferris in washington institute fellow eric trager,

urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary to show assad that the united states is fully willing and able to impose the consequences that he has spoken of in the event these weapons are used. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton met with her russian counterpart thursday to secure russia's support. >> the international community, this goes to your question about the russians, is united on this issue. >> reporter: but all sides say they hope to first find a diplomatic solution to end the syrian civil war. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >>> an estimated 40,000 people have been killed or wounded in syria's civil war. it's been almost two years since the fighting first started. >>> most of the house of representatives has cleared out of town since they won't have a fiscal cliff deal to vote on this weekend. >> while both sides are talking about the need to compromise, it doesn't sound like either side is ready to make any serious concessions. 9news reporter delia goncalves is live on capitol hill with more. good morning, delia. >> reporter: good morning. many americans and some senators simply cannot b

urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary to show assad that the united states is fully willing and able to impose the consequences that he has spoken of in the event these weapons are used. it must be based on a credible threat and that exceeds the quiet urgings of the russian federation. i have been very disturbed by a lack of american leadership in the region. looking at it from assad's view point, they have seen us leave iraq and return of al qaeda in iraq. we have seen nothing but announcements of withdrawal from afghanistan. we have watched al qaeda elements able to destroy our or damage severely our consulate in benghazi and kill four brave americans. the message has to be sent that the united states is in engaged and that the united states is ready to be involved and the united states is ready to do whatever is necessary to prevent an act that could endanger or take the lives of literally thousands and thousands of innocent people. >> thanks, john. we have reached a grave moment in the war that's raging in syria now for 20 months. and it's grave for the obvious fact that we believe that the assad governmen

the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> diplomaticorts to end the 21-month conflict has failed. opposition activists say that 42,000 people have been killed. president obama is warning egypt's president that the recent violence is unacceptable. the admonishment came amidst another round of violent protests outside the presidential palace. mohammad marcy tried to calm his supporters with a national -- morsi try to calm his supporters with a national address. >> a navy veteran is behind bars after being accused of providing classified information. he. in federal court to face a spin -- and charges. the retired submarine warfare specialist try to give information on how to track u.s.submarines to undercover fbi agents claiming to be representatives of the russian federation. >> police say clarence tailored touched girls when they attended school between 2008 and 2010. they go to another school now. he is facing three melanie charges -- felony charges. president obama will be focusing on laws protecting children. this law doubles the maxi

situation spiral into a tragedy and that the ambassador of the united states be minded would you before making any steps when you. consequence. the second major business partner. to turkey. so he really did seem like. a very amicable. germany's considering deploying nearly two hundred soldiers part of the. border with syria more than sixty percent of the move according to a recent poll. public opinion. our chancellor mrs merkel is obviously over fulfilling and prematurely fulfilling washington's wishes which is completely against the will of the people and sixty percent by the way is i think not the correct figure this is a regular tradition in our days that the parliament overrides the wishes of the people so many people here do not trust the parliament they do not trust the government and they do not trust the media and what we have here is you know eighty percent who are against the afghanistan issue and we sent our troops against their wishes then we are you know paying into the bankrupt euro currency to get again against eighty per cent of the wishes of the people and now we are sending these patriot systems and that is

. >> the president of the united states has made very clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. >> did we move the red line? why would any one be afraid of us? i forgot. >> president obama made this world safer. he restored american's respect around the world. >> we threatened the red line we conveniently moved and we claim we are respected around the world. really? all of the while the middle east chanting death to americans burning our flag while we give them money. here we are another week where we don't react to the murder of four americans where we back off our threats all the while continuing to give countries who don't respect us our money. it does nothing to reaffirm to terrorists but to reaffirm to them that we are not strong. that we don't mean what we say and we don't say what we mean. to go to the beginning punishment irrespective of purpose must be swift and must be certain. the only thing certain right now is that we don't mean what we say an

soot whole world is watching and the president of the united states made clear there will be consequencesd regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. megyn: that was leon panetta with a warning that the united states and our allies will not tolerate a chemical attack by syria. we got reports that they were mixing the chemical weapons earlier this week. focusing new attention on saddam hussein's 1988 massacre of the kurds. thousands of innocent people died in that attack. many of the victims were women and children. it's believed sarin was one of hussein's weapons of choice. gordon, thanks so much for being here. sarin gas seems to be the main culprit they are talking about potentially in syria. talk to us about what happened since we do sadly have an historical example of its use. how it was used in 1988 again the kurds and what would likely happen if it were used in syria. >> it was used against the kurds in march of 1988. between 3,000 to 5,000 died within an hour. many others died later. but what occurred was a trail of birth defects, miscarria

> tonight it's becoming more and more apparent that the president of the united states is willing to endure the dire consequences of plummeting off the fiscal cliff rather than sitting down and negotiating with republicans at the table. make no mistake. this is far from some obscure conspiracy theory. this is becoming the frightening political reality for the entire country. what you're seeing is a man who thinks he has free rein. you're watching someone who thinks he was reelected with a mandate to do whatever he pleases. he's ignoring the fact that the republican majority remains in the house of representatives, a majority sent there to cult spending and impose his tax hikes. all of this has a growing number of lawmakers now openly suggesting that the country may see -- the president may secretly want the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. earlier today our hannity cameras caught up with a senator from wisconsin on capitol hill. >> it's increasingly clear to me that the president is very willing to go over the cliff. i think he ought to be spending more time listening and less time lecturing. the president