so when you look at -- when you look at the eir for the bicycle plan, that was approved finally in 2009, this sentence jumped out at me, and that says, when you implement plans like this, it's not just exclusively for one set of constituents or users. you have to look at the entire picture and present a balanced plan that addresses all the needs of all of the people of the city. and clearly again this plan doesn't do that. as president of the haight ashbury improvement association i worked on this initially and this was the chart that i had gone to with the mta and they refused to listen. so what this proposes is that for people living south of the panhandle and the park they can make their way to the wiggle, eastbound that is on pave street which is a downhill descent into the wiggle. for those living north, coming down hayes street makes a lot of sense. likewise to avoid going up paige street, that one block hill on paige, returning from the wiggle, they can go scott to hayes, and then three blocks west, and turn left again, and into the panhandle at baker. the reason i would propose

and if everything is going to trip into an eir, which is enormously expensive and time consuming, it really changes the way we make policy in terms of our streets in the city. that's why i'm really pushing on that. >> well i don't think we -- i mean this is the result of this particular appeal is not going to be a binding legal precedent. so i don't think you really have to get to that issue. but if you were -- if you're saying if they did 12 bulb-outs in a row would they need to do an eir, probably not. but i think it's a huge safety impact if you do that many in a row. let me also just add that the tpt which is the predecessor of this department doesn't have a good track record in our neighborhood when it comes to things like that. a number of years ago the paim h paige street traffic circles was a temporary project for one month. these would have impeded fire safety. we have documents from the fire department stating that but they did it really without any analysis. so getting back to your bulb-out question, no, i think probably if you had a project that involved nothing with bulb

western soma project began and we realized this overlapped with this the western soma plan area and the eir for central corridor would provide much further detail in the analysis and we could consider at the time we prepared this eir. what we did for western soma we considered the central corridor as it pertains to the cumulative impacts of the project and the western soma area and the projects in the area that overlaps with the western soma plan, so to the extent that we have the information available to us we analyze with the eir and approximate regard to that the western soma is adequate. the central corridor eir will look at that in much more detail than we were able to do so certainly the ah nalis will be before you in the future. >> thank you. i appreciate that and i think the rest of my comments be best taken up during the approval of the plan itself, and they have to do with the zoning and it does have to do with the historic structures and whether they have more flexible uses, but i don't believe those are environmental issues at this time. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yeah, i move t

public comment ended on august 6, 2012 and the planning commission doesn't conduct final review of eir's but the public comment of certification maybe presented to the planning commission during this time of the agenda. with respect to all other agenda items your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the public for three minutes and i have several speaker cards. >> okay. calling a few names and if you want to line up on that side of the room would be easiest. (calling speaker names). >> linda chapman for knob hill neighbors. i brought somebody in and you can pass it around and i am getting tremendous emails and phone calls from the local methodist pastor who is active and revitalizing somewhat inactive methodist mission that is supposed to manage the property. these are her photographs. she went up there and she was appalled and the way this has been handled by her denomination as she puts it and said why isn't the treasurer in sacramento managing this and we are managing it and is trying to t

wait until these people see the eir is all i have to say. that's part of the job and it does take time. takes a lot of time and that's why citizens serve on cac's and commissions such as you are doing because they're willing to put the time in. katie ladel was absolutely correct. the cac so far has been nothing but a public sounding board. we have taken the public so you wouldn't have to here in a way to be very truthful but that should not be its purpose, and it is my hope and i have been talking to katie and others on it at least come january we will start to function as actually advisory group and i think we can do so and i believe we can do so very effectively. there has been a misconception what a fiscal pleasablity study actually is. i know this from the large volume of email conversations i've had as well as a number of private conversations including some this morning next door in pier one at the port's affair breakfast this morning. people do not understand what it is, either commissioner katdz or sue hester can correct me but i bel

and those are -- those were the only aspects of the project that were outlined in the bike plan eir. >> supervisor olague: traffic lanes aren't removed. >> no. it's just only the oak street and am commute traffic lane being removed. >> supervisor olague: for a couple of hours? >> that's just turning -- they're using -- literally create that bike lane. >> supervisor olague: thank you. >> president chiu: colleagues, any other questions to the mta? seeing none, why don't we hear now from members of the public that wish to speak on behalf of the project sponsor, ask folks if you can keep your comments to less than two minutes. first speaker please. >> my name is lawrence lee, i'm on the board of lower haight merchants and neighbors association. i would like to reiterate that yeah, we were involved with extensive outreach that the city put on. and during all that outreach, members of the community were invited to weigh in on various options, and elements. and the solution that was eventually approved was something that we were in favor of, which included minor alterations to the existing

and i do believe that if we were to require an eir tonight, we would be setting a significant precedent for future efforts to do all sorts of different projects to improve safety on our streets, whether you're -- because if you require an eir to remove net 55 parking spots what about adding net 55 parking spots what about taking a surface parking lot and -- a building there and remove those parking spots would that require a full eir for a two story building that i'm building or if you are building a bunch of bulbouts it would create a significant precedent in my view. and so i think that the planning department's determination was correct, and i will be supporting the affirmation of the cat ex. >> president chiu: supervisor elsbernd. >> supervisor elsbernd: if there's any reason to support his efforts on ceqa reform this last hour and a half should be something that you keep in your memory banks as you consider that legislation next year. >> president chiu: supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: i want to associate my comments with supervisor wiener and president chiu in your comme

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don't mean to put words in their mouths, but to the planning department in their recommendation on the eir, it does not appear to the planning department that it makes any economic sense or is feasible to reuse the structure there as any kind of residential housing. we tried to do it in 2004. we first spoke to senior housing developers in 2010. we spoke to senior housing developers again. and we are now talking to them again, but we don't see that as feasible. we're runing that course out as we can. the developer has done an unbelievable job of meeting with the community over the last six months. we have met with the community. i speak with members of community on a somewhat regular basis to talk and see if the developer is continuing to move forward. the reports that i get are that he is. we have a system in place now with regard to the building that if something occurs with regard to the building, members of community have the phone number and email of our property manager, and can report things directly to him. they do so. i think the members of the community will agree that they get re

with all that said i want to know that we also have currently in an eir the transit sustainability project which i am also cosponsoring with supervisor olague and mayor lee. we had a meeting last week, the mayor and i, with a number of nonprofits and transit advocates, and we all committed to each other that over the next year, we're going to work very closely together in a very collaborative and transparent way to enact psp, which will replace the tidf. and so i want to just reiterate to those folks who don't agree with me on this that i continue to be very committed to that. we intend to start convening meetings in january, and i look forward to that process. now, two quick things. first, we distributed technical amendments, which i believe are non-controversial, to the tidf before supervisor elsbernd offers his amendment. and i would ask that we accept those amendments. i also want to invite the mta to come up. and i think - think -- ramos fre board of directors is here on behalf of the department. i would like to ask director ramos to explain the importance of the tidf for transit fund

on november 10, 2011, the planning commission certified the final eir, adopted ceqa findings as found in your board package today. on january 10, 2012, the board of supervisors affirmed on appeal that certification. on january 24th, 2012, the board of supervisors rezoned the city properties involved in this project, that was through ordinance 1112, and adopted add its own those ceqa findings. these transactions now before you are within the scope of the project analyzed in the final eir, and the resolution today asks the board to adopt and incorporate by reference those same ceqa findings as set forth in the planning commission motion 18486 which is also included in your package. so i'm joined by representatives of sf moma, i ask for your positive recommendations so this matter can move forward to the december 11 board meeting which will allow us to remain on schedule for a closing of he is escrow in the first quarter of 2013. happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you, mr. updike. if there are no further questions let's open this up for public comment. is there anyone f

. >> this contract is to provide, supplemental work, supplemental to the previous feis, eir which was certified in march of 2004. and the reasons for this is that there are changes of a little more small things, and there are changes to accommodate, high speed rail requirements as we have designed the project and we are now at 30 percent of the structures. to make it easier, here is a picture of what is involved. the first thing is that the approach radius were increased from 500 to 650. it is still, but, we wanted to keep as close as possible within the existing right-of-way and we do, of course, with these larger, do effect a couple of properties that were not in the original documents. we also needed four and longer lengths of the platforms, hence what was agreed as when we get the high speed rail in we will in fact face to extend the platforms from bills street to main street underground and so that is the rail extension part of it. in addition to that, the original, the final designs of 30 percent design, has revised, smoke, exhaust plants, ventilation structure, in fact, with th

back to the -- this is one of the exemptions that was relied on when this city decided not to do an eir on the big bike plan. and the court said no, you -- it's a question of fact as to whether something is minor or not minor, depending on how extensive it is. in this case we have the raised concrete plantares which had never been done before, which are going to be in the middle of the pavement on two of the busiest streets in the city, you're going to have trucks going down there, you're going to have's cars circling, bicycles in close proximity with fast-moving motor vehicles. to say that's minor i don't see that. >> president chiu: again, i think i appreciate we have a difference of opinion on this. the only last thing i would say seems to me that you're reading a requirement into the code that simply isn't there. there are certain types of alterations that are qualified with the word minor but others in that list there's nothing that refers to the minor creation of bicycle lanes. >> no. i don't have it behind me, it's hard to reach. i don't have it in my notes right here. the preamb

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