eroll, let me start with you.ching what we're doing down in washington, does anybody outside of washington care? >> very much so. very much so. >> new york is paying attention because of all you wall street people. >> wall street and the defense cuts. there's a lot riding on it and a lot as far as people's preferences. the state votes for the president, the state votes for a president who said he was going to do certain things. you sort of wanted to see him at least get it done, get a clear up and down vote on it. >> i'm getting the feeling, nancy and richard, that we now see, we're not going off the cliff. republicans are making that clear because they're starting to come to grips. worst case scenario, we'll take and pass what the president asked for. i think it's because of polling like this. "the washington post"/pew poll. we've seen some republicans, what stage of grief are we in? >> denial, which we've seen a lot of. >> we're moving off denial. >> into acceptance. when is the messaging going to change? the re