we are creating now and mirror mirror on the wall who's to blame for the republicans fault rush limbaugh thinks it's obama but i'll tell you who's really responsible for the mess of today's republican party is in in tonight's deeply to. welcome back to your take my take it live the phone lines are now open so if you want to share an opinion make a comment ask a question live on the air give us a call to zero two nine zero four twenty one thirty four and let's start with steve in spokane washington a steve ok how are you doing just great what's on your mind. i worked in a non profit capital. progressive bleed the hospital hired for profit seals. and what they did to the power of art and that were in a strong union was to opt for the senior. r. and early retirement. as the r. and. a christian increase they were replaced with. now acts which were basically. non-union people last. year and increased e.r. and case closed and that was one way that they weakened. the union. for the r.n. which was. basically the standard which spokane what are three or four hospitals. passing steve thank you for

is actually right by raising taxes rush limbaugh is republican party the party that's denied thirty years of economic royalty of reality attempted to set up an iron randian paradise in america and fear mongers everything from muslims to socialists to gays to women. the party indeed will destroy itself however the actual republican party the party that existed long before limbaugh and the rest of his rabid ilk won't be affected at all but watch by what white house republicans do with these so-called fiscal cliff that's because tragically the republican party as we used to know it has already destroyed itself here's what bruce bartlett a former senior policy analyst for ronald reagan and executive director of the joint economic committee of congress told me right here on the show last night things have changed so dramatically since the days when i first got involved with the republican politics when the republican party was the party of ideas and now it's the party of crazy people ignorant tea party people people who know nothing and are proud of it partner knows a thing or two about

rush limbaugh, somebody on the right. ted kennedy, somebody on the left. >> yeah, what do you think of ted kennedy, given the influence that he left, even after his passing? >> i think there's no doubt that ted kennedy obviously shaped the first part of this decade when he teamed up with george bush on education reform. but he was one of the most vocal critics of the iraq war and of course the legacy he left i think in the end may have helped to push health care over the top. >> colin powell, number 10 on the list, not surprising, though, that he's on the list. >> no, it's not surprising at all. here's a man that there are so few giants in washington, d.c. these days. colin powell is one of those few remaining giants not elected to office who can still pick up the phone, call somebody, and move mountains. he obviously is very reluctant to go to war in iraq but when colin powell decided to support the idea, he went to the u.n. and i think he made the big difference. >> also with the endorsement of barack obama he gave him

it's not just rush limbaugh.ck erickson are nuts that boehner is talking about some kind of compromise and i think we're going to see this not just overtaxes, tax rates, and cuts, all sorts of things, over social issues, over immigration playing out for at least the next four years. there are some republicans who have gotten realistic about the fact that the party lost but there are some republicans who clearly haven't gotten the message yet. so i think it's going to be messy for them for at least the next four years. >> thanks to both of you for your time tonight. >> thank, reverend. >> straight ahead, a developing story. massive protests in michigan after governor rick schneider declares war on workers. police were seen pepper spraying the protesters. we are live in michigan. >>> and what is michelle obama and former president bill clinton fighting for? it's a good thing. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actuall

not even rush limbaugh. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who could stop what's going to happen. >> with the fiscal cliff just 22 days away. >> we're down to the final three weeks. >> the president is on the move. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> president obama on the ground in michigan. >> i will work with republicans. >> delivering a speech at an engine manufacturing plant. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> they are ready to make a deal. >> they are ready to make a deal on tax rates. >> republicans know that they have to give on taxes. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what is happening. >> senator corker has nailed this one. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> you have to have leverage. >> we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> could a secret meeting seal the deal when it come to the fiscal cliff? the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is goin

this is what happens when you go near the misery index, the rush limbaugh show.esterday, jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina and the out-going heritage foundation president dent and rush made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> what do you make of that? it might work a little bit the other way. an out-going united states senator not being very out-going about the speaker of the house saying he might lose his job because demint is going to the heritage foundation. explain that. >> actually, there's no connection there. that's just idle banter with rush limbaugh. in reality the speaker will be back in charge. he's negotiating right now with the president. >> why clip the speaker? >> it's setting the stage for what's to come. he will go out, has a new platform, an elevated voice, if you will, not 1 of 100, representing a lot of conservative voices around the country. the thing to b

we continue with david limbaugh and juan williams. lot of unanswered questions there.looking into that report in the days to come. juan, the president of the united states is supposed to lead. he gave us 6 trillion in new debt in his first term. he's on track a trillion dollars deficits as far as the eye can see. this whole discussion has been about one thing, raising taxes. when will he restrain his impulse to spend more than he takes in? >> but sean, one of the big compromises offered by the president this past weekend was to what they call the chain cpi, try to limit the rate at which we see the increase in spending on the entitlement programs in the country. that was a huge concession and you don't even acknowledge it. >> why is that a concession, juan? why is that a concession? when it's in the best interest of the nation? why is the rate of growth -- >> david, it does what you want. it slows the rate of spending on the social entitlement programs. >> but it shouldn't be considered a concession for obama to do what is unarguably in the best interest of the nation.

they left that rush limbaugh thinking far behind. >> it's a good thing, because rush limbaugh is nowhere the mainstream of the american people. i'm also worried about the defense cuts. i think we need to make the cuts. we haven't cut the defense budget much in the last 30 years. they just ordered new uniforms for their chauffeurs for the top brass. you know, this is going to be a lost opportunity if there's too much compromising going on here. i'm going to stick to my position we'd be off going over the cliff, the curb. it's a slope and not a cliff. i take krystal's point as a good point. you have to pick your time. the europeans are done too much with austerity. i think we can afford to do this, and we ought to make the down payment. the cliff doesn't fix the deficit, but it really does make a downpayment and gets defense cuts for the first time. you know damn well the defense won't get cut ifç they make a deal on this. >> in the "new york post" today a conservative columnist wrote the trut is every way you look at it, the gop is trapped. republican politicians will save and give the p

that's just idle banter with rush limbaugh. the speaker is going to be back in charge.gotiating right now with the president. >> but why clip the speaker on the way by? >> it's sort of setting the stage for what's to come. he's going to go out, he's got a new platform, an elevated voice, if you will. he's not one of 100. he's now really representing a lot of conservative voices around the country, but the thing to be careful about here is, you know, you talked about the split within the party. that split has been there for a while. it's not just after this election. it goes back a good number of years, and it's not about some ideological i'm more conservative than you. it really is trying to figure out and marshal together those core principles that revolve around the economic realities that this country has to face. >> what's the fight about? >> the fight is about who gets to articulate it, who gets to decide and make the kind of decisions -- >> just personnel? >> it's not so much personnel as it is personality. >> wait a minute. let's step back. i want to bring in joy

rush limbaugh says it's a secret plan to decimate the republican party. limbaugh. >> the president, who will have engineered all of this, will then be able to steal from the republicans that which they are known for, a strong defense and low taxes. and in the process the president and his party will effectively decimate the republican party. that will make a lot of people very happy. hollywood, warren buffett, oprah, david letterman, you know, all your favorite people. what boehner is trying to do -- i don't know it's going to work, but i think offering this million dollar umbrella is essentially taking the revenue issue off the table by agreeing to it, and then the efforts to focus the democrats on spending. now dinghy hairy, the wiley old coyote here has refused to be trapped. the house bill will not protect middle class families because it can't pass both houses of congress, meaning he won't let it be voted on in the senate. that's what he's saying. so the democrats are holding middle class tax cuts hostage i guess what is happening. no one's going to

but tonight, john boehner's plan b is being attacked by president obama and rush limbaugh. and in a last word exclusive, the basketball coach who used his post-game press conference to talk about something much more important than the game. mass murder in america. >> the fiscal cliff talks, are they stolen again? >> i hope the president will get serious soon. >> i have met them at least half way. >> john boehner's so-called plan b. >> what is the strategy for plan b? >> make sense of what just happened. >> they're thinking about voting for, raising taxes. >> except for household income above a million. >> but they will reject spending cuts. >> the president will have a decision to make. >> that defies logic. >> this is baffling. >> grover norquist has given his blessing, that defies logic. >> people across america thought we were behaving like adults. >> stay classy, gop. >> if this does nothing, it will give us perspective. >> it is announcing a task force on guns. >> violence that we cannot accept as routine. >> president obama puts joe biden in charge of a task force. >>

and this is something that people do because it sounds so insane that a right wing hosts like rush limbaugh who's not in any way lucky to have such influence but as somebody who has sat in offices where there's been controversial legislation like the health care bill when somebody some someone like rush limbaugh or sean hannity or glenn beck talk about radio nobody number one of my point is that when they said something on the radio we heard a lot of the same words echoed not the same way that even fox news or bill o'reilly had the ability there's something about these radio audience and the radio fans that are very active and when rush limbaugh says call your congressman is a real a fact he is incredibly effective they have a big impact because you know like the thing about democracy is those that participate also of middle world heritage action to neal you think the that that eric cantor has six you know he's been standing behind boehner for a couple years here with that knife. in his left kidney you think he has finally shoved it is i may be betraying a confidence but cantor was working

. >>> this moment tus day of 12-12-12 will go down in political history as the day rush limbaugh gave up and found himself agreeing with me. >>> the clock is rapidly ticking down to christmas. >> republican leaders warning their colleagues. >> we are committed to staying here. >> not to make any holiday plans. >> we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve. >> fiscal tensions mount as the clock clicks down christmas less than two weeks way, the moment the nation is due to go off the cliff. >> we are getting a little close. >> the white house has moved a little bit. >> i remain optimistic. >> nothing yet from the house republicans. >> the two sides really do disagree. >> sunday is basically the deadline. >> they could be working through the holidays. >> the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night. >> bain ner and the president spoke on the phone yesterday. >> described as tense. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town. >> i remain optimistic. >> what do they want? >> most americans say they want compromise. >> voters overpwhelmingly disapprove.

may be of rush limbaugh had used the c word -- >> the have a question? >> sweden and norway, desirable countries chosen by you folks is very white of you. my question is would you like -- are we going to have some point in which hillary clinton advice is put into play, stop whining? >> everybody please. it is a really good question. >> i am far. we didn't hear a question. does someone have a question? >> i have a question. there is a way in which this conversation very much mirrors the conversation that men have about these issues or the issues that face the country that constantly make me feel left out of this because i am single. all of this conversation is directed towards families and family values and yet i believe the majority of women in the country today are actually single, many of them may be younger so you assume they will aspire after those kinds of lies, but i don't see you very much talking about single women and i do believe we should divide into different pieces but i don't often hear myself and other women like me reflected in these conv

rush limbaugh. >> so this guy is man of the year because idiots love him -- >> stephanie: the presidentn voters are idiots. person of the year stupid. the low-information voter should have been the person of the year. >> wow. >> america is stupid! >> i love it when rush projects. [ laughter ] >> they think voters are stupid. yeah, i think rush doth protest too much. >> stephanie: you have been such a good boy you get sarah palin for dessert. >> the first thing that popped into my mind was what the heck has he done except drive us over a fiscal cliff. now it's matter of degree of how hard we're going to hit bottom. but really what has he done to unify and make our nation a more perfect union? for the life of me i don't know. >> stephanie: who could be more unifying than you? >> i wanted to palin for christmas. >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> that was more like fruit cake. >> the holidays are an important time for the country, and an important time to go through congress, you have the fiscal cliff probably getting a vote today. president obama said the republicans need to take their war paint of

now, this comes on the heels of rush limbaugh saying that the gop has given in on the tax issue.sten. >> the republicans are just giving in. they have compromised, what have you, on the premise that raising taxes on the rich will fix the problem. it was weak. the republicans have conceded the language. >> now, limbaugh going out, million of people listening to him and now this petition by erickson, does this put a lot of pressure on some of the people in boehner's caucus to be more difficult, let's say, for him handle than it would have been? >> i don't know that it could be any more difficult to handle than it may have already been. listen, this started when he kicked four members of their caucus out of their leadership positions on important finance committees. even then, he wouldn't have taken them out of leadership if he didn't think that he could keep his caucus in place. he knows that he's balancing competing interest. yes, there is this tea party component of the caucus. also, there are a lot of conservatives who got the memo and want to be able to compromise with the whit

in fact i think it was rush limbaugh that referred to me as a "pointy headed intellectual that didn't know the first thing about the marketplace." >> hinojosa: and what do you say to tt? i mean, were you taken aback a little bit by the criticism when you were just saying, "look, i'm a social scientist, i conducted experiments..." you know, the jam problem. people may have heard about the jam problem, which is your experiment of putting jams in a supermarket, and whether or not people would choose a preferred jam, and if they had too many choices, they ended up perhaps not ending up buying one of the jams. but if you gave them three choices, then they would usually say, "out of these three, i can see which one i like, and i think m going to go buy it." >> yh. i mean, to be honest with you, when i first ran the experiment, i didn't have an agenda. i didn't have a particular ideology that i was trying to promote. i just ran the study, and i was just as surprised as anybody else was. and then when rush limbaugh went out there and critiqued me, and a lot of people kind of got scared by the

limbaugh calling fluke calling prostitute on his radio show. he says now. >> nobody would know who she is if it weren't for me. if anybody is going to be named person of the year on that basis, it ought to be me! >> no word from "time" magazine whether rush is being considered. >>> she is about to step down from her job as secretary of state. what will senator clinton do as encore and will it include another race for the white house? we'll talk to two people who have covered clinton for years. their insight into hillary's move, next. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away. tamiflu is prescription medicine for treating the flu in adults and children one year and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu te

subbing in for rush limbaugh in the '90s.nkly the only african american senator in i think 20 years at the time whenever rush limbaugh would talk about her, she was play the theme song to the jefferson's moving on up. and that is not a dog whistle. >> no! >> stephanie: i really like sean hannity personally. >> right, and you have a lot of conservatives in your family. >> stephanie: i do. >> some of my best friends are sean hannity. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: let's continue. steve doocy. >> listen we have got a gigantic win for america to tell you about. it happened yesterday in michigan. michigan became the 24th state to pass right to work legislation. what that means is you no longer have to join a union. you just don't have to -- you don't have to join it which is terrific, because there are a lot of people who don't want to. >> stephanie: karl? >> well you don't have to join. you get the same benefit that the union is fighting for, and you don't have to pay into it. >> stephanie: isn't that nifty. >> it's called the right

that's just idle banter with rush limbaugh. the speaker is going to be back in charge.e's negotiating right now with the president. >> but why clip the speaker on the way by? >> it's sort of setting the stage for what's to come. he's going to go out, he's got a new platform, an elevated voice, if you will. he's not one of 100. he's now really representing a lot of conservative voices around the country, but the thing to be careful about here is, you know, you talked about the split within the party. that split has been there for a while. it's not just after this election. it goes back a good number of years, and it's not about some ideological i'm more conservative than you. it really is trying to figure out and marshal together those core principles that revolve around the economic realities that this country has to face. >> what's the fight about? >> the fight is about who gets to articulate it, who gets to decide and make -- >> just personnel? >> it's not so much personnel as it is personality. >> wait a minute. let's step back. i want to bring in joy. looking at it

this is what happens when you g near what i call the misery index, the risch limbaugh show.terday jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina, and the outgoing heritage president ed fuelner went on rush and yuck yucked about john boehner. they made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's save to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. >> it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> what do you make of that? it might work a little bit the other way. here is an outgoing united states senator not being very outgoing about the speak of the house saying he might lose his job because demint is going to the hair raj foundation. explain that rubik's coupe. >> actually, there's no connection. that's just itle ba idle banter rush limbaugh. the speaker is going to be back this charge. he's negotiating right now with the president. >> but why clip the speaker on the way by? >> it's sort of setting the stage for what's to come. he's going to go out, he's got a new platform, an elevated voice, if you will.

hostler magazine break it down for the average joe for me well it's funny that they're talking rush limbaugh specifically uses the word santa clause because in a way that's that's a misnomer i mean we use that in the article because it's a good way to get across these ideas but that's kind of belittling what democrats have done since since the great depression really and it's the same language that you'd win in ski uses in one thousand nine hundred six when he writes this op ed called the two santa claus theory which basically asserts that democrats have achieved political success because they're giving people things such as social as talked about for security unemployment insurance later medicare and everything like that and if a party is running on these things people tend to vote for them so if republicans are saying we can't afford them we can't do that they end up acting like the party of scrooge and nobody really wants to vote for the party of scrooge so when it's key puts forward this this idea that says well republicans need to act like santa claus to him the best way they can do tha

rush limbaugh. obama took advantage of his honey moon [ inaudible ] first black president. a new presidency to basically defraud the american people. >> please explain. >> stephanie: he used his tricky blacksness. >> rush has had so many honeymoons maybe it's hard for him to recognize anymore. barack obama didn't get a honeymoon, okay, folks? within hours of him being inaugurated, you had people on fox news saying the president was a racist, and people like rush limbaugh saying we had to bend over and grab our ankles because his father was black. that's the tip of the iceberg with these people. this president never got a break. and i'm not saying he deserves a honeymoon period but they have been in full-on attack mode and divisive mode since the day he started running for president. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. and there wasn't even a pause before the election. karl by the way a couple of awesome tweets this week. when do we stop calling it a think tank? and the resignation [ inaudible ] shuffling of the deck chairs on the tea-tannic. >> that's awesome. >> i used liberal bia

that's rush limbaugh doing rush limbaugh. >> i thereafter that we have actually made this such a huge topic because we come to the point where we accept the major networks in this country taking a political side and yet once it happens in sports, oh, my gosh, you guys went too far. your main news broadcasters are taking sides. >> different standards. >> correct. >> where perhaps there shouldn't be. i must say. this when costas went out and did the interviews, he took it head on. i guess he's decided to take his stand on this. >> in his commentary he quoted another -- >> it was a figure leaf. >> got bless america that jason wit lock and bob costas and people of their ilk are actually speelking about their issues instead of chris kol ing worth being tough quarterback for the bears after receiving a concussi concussion. >> i've got to blow the whistle. thanks for joining us this morning. >>> coming back. a secret tape recorder. was robert ales cvently pushes david petraeus to run for president? people have doubts about taking aspirin for pain. but they haven't experienced extra strength

. >> stephanie: rush limbaugh. >> the republican party, as lincoln's party freed the slaves, but todayhat the elected democrats are saying. it's like margaret singer. planned parenthood is all about family planning. yeah, but it's called the elimination of black families. that's what margaret singer is about. >> what? >> stephanie: he has gone a little off the rails since the election. hasn't he? >> i think he needs to refill his oxycontin prescription. >> allen west compared himself to abraham lincoln yesterday. he was asked what is next for you? he said god closes doors so he can open up greater doors. and always remember abraham lincoln only served one term in congress too. [ applause ] >> he does have two of the same letters in his name so i can see why -- >> what? >> stephanie: and we close for bill o'reilly. >> i had to deal with assaults at christmas. i don't want to do this. but i personally am fed up. the people who want to diminish the christmas federal holiday are insulting me and you if you are a christian and/or believe in traditional america. >> there are a lot of jewish

mississippi governor who is a realist, haley barbour, planted him in the realist camp, and even rush limbaugh has acknowledged republicans' weak position. let's listen to both. >> as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if in return we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform, if you have the whole package. i would hold my nose. >> what i'm saying is i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what's going to happen. we don't have the leverage, the power isn't there. >> talk about a decisive move. we got him in the realist category, it's a strange brew. then the ideologues. i thought rush was always there. but not this time. they say avoid tax increases at all costs. here is kentucky senator rand paul. let's listen. >> i think the president's got it exactly backwards. he's adamant about raising taxes, and he's dead wrong. >> what do you think of mr. boehner's idea, cap deductions and get $800 billion in revenues. does that make any sense? >> it's a tax increase. it's a bad idea. >> what kind of question was that to

oh, rush limbaugh.med on the republicans and then the pressure to stop it is placed on the republicans and every two years, the republicans play ball with this. i think it is time that they stop talking like bureaucrats and robots and just come out and boldly bluntly say we're not going to support obama bankrupting the country. >> so apparently you were broadcasting during the bush administration. >> stephanie: i seem to recall him being on during the clinton years. we just posted this piece from -- market watch. "wall street journal." >> yep. >> stephanie: obama spending binge that never happened. it is so easily provable. literally, government spending under obama including the stimulus is rising at 1.4%. annualized pace. you can see every single president. >> the same is true with the size of government in terms of the number of people working for the government. but yeah, limbaugh, as we talked about, not to play ball. this notion that the pressure is on republicans to fix this deficit problem or yo

as i recall i think rush limbaugh said something that had racial undertones years ago on espn, and he was forced to resign. i think espn was in a tough situation. if you are going to hold people accountable you have to do it across the board and have some consistency. >> last word to you, quick. >> i think rush limbaugh offended all black people. this just offended corn ball ones. the funny part was rob parker gave him street creds. i think he is not trying to look like a surfer. favorite group is the beach boys, fact. >> do you have a comment on the show? e-mail as you red eye at fox news.com. and do you have video of your animal doing something? go to fox news.com/red eye and click on submit a video. we might use it. still to come, the half time report from tom shillou. >> tonight's half time report is sponsored by sled dogs. the dogs trained to pull a sled especially as part of a dog team. thanks, sled dogs. >>> let's find out if we have gotten anything wrong. we go to tom shillou. >> yes, you are. i got that right. the mental health discussion at the beginning. jim norton, you sai

. >> rush limbaugh called her a name. [ overlapping speakers ] >> 15 minutes of name.uard particles, discovery completes the standard model of physics, and explains the mechanism from which mass comes into existence. does that prove, or disprove god's existence? either way, it's 15 minutes are up. best minute of the year. >> hamas, celebrates after 1500 district hits in 8 days, and the world believes it was a great victory. >> vice president biden, bin laden is dead, and general motors is alive. >> president obama's entire reelection campaign. to me, it was one big eally, al >> pretty much. >> mitt romney's statement that he cares about 100% of the people. >> best spin of the year. that al-qaeda is on the run. unless you mean charging at our diplomatic missions with our assault rifles blazing, and rpg's firing. you with me pat? >> again, i think i heard that last show. >> from you? >> best comeback. >> you really are hard up, aren't you? >> okay, the most [ inaudible ] person of the year. >> ron paul. >> we're back to ron paul? >> rand paul has a very promising future.

if it's about who has the power, let's play what rush limbaugh and joe scarborough criticize. let me play it. >> so i assume 400 and then boehner did a million. i said, hey, that's great. these guys are coming together and i thought that number was going to be 500. the president would take 500, i think. >> he would. >> john boehner makes this -- you know, he said, starts talking about plan "b" and i get confused. >> if you look at what the speaker has proposed, he's conceded -- there it is. there's the word. there it is. stop the tape. that's what this is all been about. he has wanted the republicans to concede that tax cuts for the rich caused all these problems. >> so, there he is going on about the president, rush limbaugh, but he was critical of boehner. he played the conservative organizations who basically warned the republicans, we are coming for you. >> right. >> unhappy for different reasons. people on the left and people on the right but all unhappy with speaker boehner. does he have any power? >> i think one thing that all of this avoids confronting is if nothing ge

he told rush limbaugh that it's about principles not dollars, saying quote, i believe that i can do more good for the conservative movement outside of the senate. of course he has done a lot for the movement inside the senate because through his senate conservative fund he has cultivated a whole host of tea partyers including tea party senators like ron johnson, mike lee, marco rubio, pat toomey rand paul geoff flake, geoff fisher. perhaps his worst was backing todd aiken after todd aikenenths "legitimate rape," he donated to aiken's come pain but his attempts to remake the republican party in his conservative image has errands him actually the scorn of more moderate republicans. washington post columnist jennifer rubin wrote today, quote, "demint has been a destructive force, thread anything to primary colleagues, resisting all deals and offering very little in the way of attainable legislation." she's right. the legislation that he backed was pretty far out there. for example, he pushed a bill that would make it illegal to discuss abortion on the internet, to even discuss it. he wanted

rush limbaugh. >> folks i'm a little worn-out fed up and very inpatient with these ongoing assaults one current disaster is not teaching people a lesson, nothing will. we're not teaching people to be productive, and instead we're teaching them that there is nothing wrong with being slovenly. it is stupid, it's what they did in the soviet union. kill ambition. to hell with that. >> stephanie: wow, someone is getting a little upset about losing their spare oxycontin stash. lots of people have proposed 100% tax rate. that's exactly what is on the table. >> you can't expect rush logic to enter into reality. >> stephanie: yes, and liberalism is to blame. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> how? so -- >> stephanie: doesn't matter jim. and also rush limbaugh marriage expert had something to do with they are not married. >> well, he says that women -- one way to make women conservative is to marry them and he is trying to do that one lady at a time. >> yes he is. >> stephanie: okay. shawn handy. >> republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad, negotiating among them

independents who are disaffected republicans but when they're doing this extreme thing that rush limbaughly beginning the thought process -- he's the thought leader, it's never going to actually work out for you. that is not realistic. they're living in the alternate reality when even megan kelly has to say, is that real or are these just things you tell yourself as a republican to make yourself feel better? >> jimmy, to that point, math, i feel like the big triumph of math. who knew math would be one of the big stories of 2012? >> in the building behind us they count -- at least sometimes they count votes, sometimes they don't. the great irony is when it comes to elections, you have to count for the number of people that vote for you and the number of people that vote against you. i don't understand why they can't count. listen, if their number one priority in the country is the fiscal cliff, if it's all about the debt and the deficit and they can count to $16 trillion, you think they would be able to count to 16 million votes but they can't seem to do that. that's an inherent problem. l