. >> shock rocker marilyn manson. >> manson. >> manson. >> manson has canceled the last five dates over his u.s. tour out of respect for the those lost in littleton. but the singer says artists like himself are not the ones to blame. >> though i disagree with michael moore on just about everything including the premise of his movie, on that point, i do agree and i think we have this conversation about the culture and his whole point in this was to say, well, if we're going to blame marilyn manson who the shooters liked, why not blame bowling. they did that that morning, as well. every time this happens we try to grapple with what we can do, how to make sense of it and we go to the culture and every time we just don't come up with satisfying answers so i understand the impulse but i just want to remind people that it's not a new debate about violence in our culture. we have it often and usually we come up empty. >> well, and there is a tendency i think for everybody to apply their pet, pet issue to what the problem is here and mike huckabee saying it's taking god out of the schools and p

i believe the manson family got their start there. >> jimmy: yeah. >> a nice place to live. of, you know, i have a family, a wife. >> jimmy: a manson family? >> no. no. >> jimmy: a regular family. >> a regular human family. i love it because i get to have chickens. >> jimmy: i've been wanting to get chickens in my backyard. >> i have chickens. >> jimmy: how do you like having chickens? is it all it's cracked up to be? i really do, i'm not kidding. i want to get chickens in my backyard. >> it was amazing up until last week when my chickens met a terrible end. >> jimmy: oh no. >> i left in the morning. i was going on sort of a day with some of my bros and i called home to check up on things, and my father-in-law answered the call. he's this 72-year-old amazing insane vietnamese man and he said, oh, i'm very upset. i'm very upset. i said what's the matter, hip? >> jimmy: what? >> hipdang is his name. he says i'm very upset. i said what's the matter? he said the chickens are gone. and so i said, what's wrong? he said some animal took the chickens. so i get my wife on the phone.

manson.because it's a little swastika on my for a, i will lose weight. it would be a great role and i will win an oscar. hollywood has a hard time pointing out the good in things. pop music, our member growing up, there's our stories about rock stars crashing hotel rooms. and how cool it was and how rebellious it was to destroy things. but somebody had to clean that up, and he was always a made. i wonder if these rock stars who are liberal and left wing ever thinks about the little guy who has to clean up the stupid masses for the stuff have to do with when they are od'ing are getting hired or wasted and breaking things. if they can pretend to be a rebel when, in fact, they are hurting the regular guy there championing. i used to be -- [applause] they just be a time when, like being a celebrity was supposed to be edgy. you were supposed to speak truth to power. but now they french kiss. look at jon stewart. he did a whole rally making fun of the tea party. speak to power to people who are "sp

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nobody, if you ask an actor who they would rather play, charles manson or mitt romney, they would saycharles manson because you know i will lose weight and it will be a great role and i will when then oscar. hollywood romanticizes people. i remember growing up and there were always stories about rock stars bashing hotel rooms and how cool it was and how rebellious it was. but somebody had to clean that up and it was always the made. i wonder if these rock stars on the liberal left-wing think about these guys are the stuff they have to deal with when they are getting higher getting wasted. they can pretend to be a rebel when in fact they are hurting the regular guy they are championing. [applause] there used to be a time when like being a celebrity was supposed to be edgy. now they french kiss it. if you look at jon stewart he did a whole rally making fun of the tea party so that was supposed to be rebellious. all he was doing was speaking to power. it was the tea party who were the rebels and he was making fun of it. i think his rally was called -- [inaudible] he wasn't talking about

you ask an actor who they would rather play, charles manson or mitt romney, they would say charles manson because they get the little swastika on my forehead, a really great role, hollywood romanticizes evil and they have a hard time pointing out the good in things. i remember growing up, there were stories about rock stars trashing hotel rooms and how cool it was and how rebellious it was but somebody had to clean that up. i wonder if these rock star as more liberal and left-wing ever think about the little guy, the stuff they have to deal with when they are getting high or getting wasted and breaking things. the ultimate hypocrisy. they can pretend to be a rebel when in fact they are hurting the regular guy they are championing. i used to be -- a time -- used to be a time when being a celebrity was supposed to be edgy, your suppose to seek truth and power but now they french kiss it. look at john stuart. regional rally making fun of the tea party as if that was rebellious all he was doing was speaking truth to power to people who were speaking truth to power. was the tea party who were

that quote by the way, charles manson.ce the trend and get a pair of your own? >> absolutely. i just got these skinny jeans recently. i have them pegged so they show off the cankle. i am ready to embrace meggings if that is the next thing. >> is this a real trend? >> i hope not. i am just working out wearing extra full size wranglers. >> no spanx for you? pab, do you hope to see more men in tights or more tights walking around in men? >> it is shakespear yen, but no. >> because they involve cod pieces? or tights? >> bill, don't nfl players wear megggs every week and isn't it macho and isn't this story stupid? >> which part do you want me to answer first? the nfl, yes, they wear that stuff. >> it didn't have to do with jeans and khakis, and it was like little -- you had these leggings things. if you could have the meggings come back, this is not as stupid as meggings. >> i just know it sounds vaguely racist. >> maybe it is because i think it is racist. >> why did we do that story? >> it is fun to say meggings. >> that was t

don't forget manson families were hippies who were unionized. >> eric: kimberly, at one point, 20% of american workforce was unionized and now it's below 11%. that is under 7%. >> kimberly: what have you done for me lately. that is the problem. why would i sign up? it's impeding their ability to get jobs for what they might want to get. neap the right to work states. when you see on the television like this, union thug riff. problems with the teachers going on strike. they don't want to essential kite the kid. you cannot deny in this is not good for business this public perception. >> bob: they should have kicked more of them if you want the truth. they took out a tent paid for by koch brothers. yesterday dana said people of michigan voted for this bill. they did not vote for it. they voted against the constitutional change. that's what they voted for. it had nothing to do with right to work. >> eric: clarify two things. that were people in the tent. elderly people in the tent. women in the tent. >> greg: that's okay. >> eric: who cares who paid for it? >> bob: koch brothers to create

manson seemed to agree. >> the one area of possible agreement is diane fine stein is reintroducing a ban on assault weapons. that's something the president does support. the president and vice president met with cabinet secretaries to start discussing what regulation they may come up with. >> ed, thank you in the north lawn. >> violence is forcing educators to confront what can dthey do i if anything to make schools safer and more secure. >> at this time we are going to have a moment of silence. >> at district heights elementary in maryland southeast of the capitol first graders received new lessons in life and the loss of it. >> part of the moment of silence you think about how we can continue to care for each other. >> across america local police touched base with school security officers procedures for safety drills were dusted off and revisited. >> we are sitting down at the table now to come up with different ways to keep intruders and suspicious persons out of our schools. >> the message hammered home to parents we are trained for situations like this. >> i think there have bee

early on as the two loneliest people in the world, because unless you think of the parents of charles mansonor jeffrey dahmer or someone like that, you don't have anyone who understands what they are going through. they are in uncharted territory. they have a lot of great friends. their pastor also in the book, a wonderful man. mark tausan, pastor john mark tausan. everyone in the area looked up to him. he lost his job because he supported the klebold's and did still in. >> no. >> host: tell us about dylan's funeral. >> guest: dylan's funeral. it was very private. it was less than a week after columbine and the family was afraid to have a funeral. they did it in secrecy. they had not been going to a church regularly but they had attended the philip lutheran church at one time. a friend got word through pastor john mark houser that the klebold's needed somebody. they didn't have a pastor and they needed somebody to bury their son. he agreed to do it and there were only a dozen people there. he prepared something but then when he got there he realized he needed to just throw that out and talk.

. >> you know, bill, i've been eye to eye with charles manson. i've been a war correspondent for seven years, i covered the worse atrocities of iraq and afghanistan. this is the worst thing ever. i have a scene in my mind that i just can't get out of my mind. he had the three weapons. he had the glock and the six hour, both .9 millimeter, the 223 bush master. it's unclear whether or not he used it. most reports are suggesting he left that one in the car, which means he went into the school, gets past security, gets into the classroom, one or two classrooms and starts firing at the little children. at some point he has to run out of ammunition. even if he has extended magazines, at some point he has to reload. so the scene i have in my mind is these babies, between the ages of five and ten, as this grownup -- these are children who have never seen evil. these are children who are in the flower of innocence. here is a grownup dressed in camo and bullet proof vest and he's got two hand guns and he starts killing the children and you can imagine the

after march of 1943, japanese-americans off the west coast, not manson are, but the camp outside the western defense command were allowed to reclaim their cameras. that's why bill manbo had a camera and is comfortable walking around in public. so what did he shoot? seashell parades. boy scout and is very active at heart mountain. here you've got the boy scout at the head of the parade with the american flag in the dry nature with the time just behind. and then maybe i'm not so classic american image. sumo wrestling is part just open my camp, very much again like the japanese culture being practiced with permission of the war relocation authority. if you could see the faces of the folks behind, it's clearly a light moment in this particular match. and looks as though the older gentleman has been pushed out of the ring by the younger guy others' cultural historians might see some interesting comic relief going on because there's a fair amount of unspoken intergenerational conflict at the camp between the immigrant generation. so there's a way in which the young man pushing the old man

maximum security prison that has housed some of the nation's most infamous criminals including charles manson and the founder of the mexican mafia. despite its reputation, violence doesn't come naturally to everyone at corcoran. >> i don't see myself as being like many of the people here. what i saw the longer i was here is there really is a thin line between them and me. >> before he was an inmate, stefan parro was a librarian. >> i'm here basically because i'm an alcoholic and i've done a lot of drugs, too. drugs are part of my story. >> parro's drug use resulted in a six-year sentence for crimes including burglary. >> at that time i had been married not very long. my wife was pregnant. the fact i couldn't stop drinking and i couldn't stop using, it was difficult to deal with the shame and guilt of all that. >> parro and his wife eventually separated, but he landed in prison for breaking into her home and stealing her credit cards to pay for drugs. >> i readily admitted to it. that was one of the problems in my defense. i had no defense. i said, yeah, i did go in and take the credit cards.

it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. snyder says, by the way, it's not fair to call these people freeloaders. >> i think it's absolutely inappropriate to say someone is a freeloader. michigan people are hard-working people trying to make a living. if the union is offering them a value proposition, i don't see a michiganer hesitating to pay those dollars >> bill: i came close to calling that what it is. total b.s of course they are freeloaders. i have all of these people around me. they are paying their dues so we can get representation in the state legislature in the congress so we can work and get better retirement benefits, better vacation plans, better health benefits and all of that for their families. i get it for my family but i don't pay a damn dime. >> that's a freeloader by definition. rick snyder, i don't care what you are say you are not one tough nerd. you are one dumb-ass governor. how do we fight back? we got to fight back. >> i think there are at least three ways. we have to let them know what we think abo

this is to the first 15 manson and the want to know if it's real.yesterday the root of the republican do is scenario. with you vote for the senate bill, extending the bush tax cuts for 92 people instead of -- that's it. no more. the new york times today wrote about that as a fallback position. would you support that? >> adelle want to feed into this to stay apocalyptic. i'm on his accountant there enough people, a majority of people in this town and understand that what they're playing chicken with is the most important country in the world. we on the bridge of -- before it talk about fiscal, we are here because of the last fiscal cliff that created a scenario that led to this ridiculous idea that i voted against. let's put a bunch of bad things to happen at one time because that will force washington to do something. we have to avoid doing damage. avoid doing harm. we need to look for a way to accomplish that in the short term. and then we have to have a conversation but getting the fiscal house in order. it's fundamentally true. we spend a trillio

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wal-mart has banned from its stores albums with the likes of green day, and marilyn manson.merica the book. and the plan b emergency contraception pill. right. [♪ fun-facts music ♪] >> stephanie: and men's magazines like maxim. >> how many people has maxim killed? >> none unless they slipped on this -- >> stephanie: dick's sporting goods has stopped the sale of assault weapons. >> i will take my business to dick's. >> yes. >> stephanie: ohio republican governor yesterday signed in to law a measure that would slightly weaken the state's gun law. it would require that they demonstrate competency only once. and allow carrying concealed weapons in the parking lot of the state capitol. a press release summarizing his actions put the gun law at the bottom of the list of those he signed. he foreshadowed the action earlier in the week saying whatever we do we don't want erode the lights of citizens. kasick should not have signed such a divisive bill less than a week after the tragedy. at the minimum, you would think. >> stephanie: wow. >> stephanie: carol in pennsylvania. hi, carol.

one could parade pictures of charles manson, of timothy mcveigh, the oklahoma bomber, of jeffrey dahmer country you get a trial, you get a trial by a jury of your peers, no matter how heinous your crime is, no matter how awful you are, we give you a trial. this bill takes away that right and says that if someone thinks you're dangerous, we will told you without a trial. it's an abomination. it should not stand. most americans understand that you are accused of a crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime. you get your day in court. now, some here may not care when they determine that they are going to detain ahmed or yusef or ibrahim, but many innocents are named those names. many americans are named sawl or david or isaac. is our memory so short that we don't understand the danger of allowing detention without trial? is our memory so short that we don't understand the havoc that bias and bigotry can do when unrestrained by law? your trial by jury is your last defense against tyranny, your last defense against oppression. we have locked up arabs, we have locked up jews, we have locked up