on my left is professor stephen vladeck at american university washington college of law. we agree the nationalized expert also part of the military tribunal and has many amicus briefs to the high court and has written on a broad range of issues and our own committee on un national-security. senior editor the peer review on policy and a senior contributor to one of the first things we look in the morning after the times. >> after the times? >> after and he clerked for the honorable judge of the night of the circuit and also the u.s. court of appeals. and was editor at the yet yale law journal. to both very talented the debate is entitled potential policy. we set it up to do it live stephen most art and then we will have the response. >> it is of pleasures to be here and four you guys to put this to gather to having a the fortitude to have the purchase of a. i am a firm believer the best we can do is raise the level of debate to engage with each other or talk past each other. those remarks that virtually consistent with the book one question they could ask with the war on t