>> wilkey in 1940, that sort of character, who was a republican businessman, it is possible, if the era living in has told us anything, it's that anything is possible, but i would tend to think the nominees would come from the political, professional class. >> because part of the thing is the fund raising. you saw president obama raise 2 billion dollars and mitt romney was not far behind that, is it possible, doug, to figure out an established an infrastructure to raise the money you need to run the campaign. >> peggy is right, there's a possibility and the electorate embracing wilkey or even a ross perot type figure, but to raise the money, to put together the political structure and to have the energy to do what's necessary in a campaign, dana, it's very hard for somebody who's never been in the process and you've seen it firsthand, you know how tough toss, tough for somebody with no experience to come in and do it. >> okay, thank you both. compelling and convincing, doug and peggy. thank you so much. [applause]. >> thank you, dana. >> coming up in the show. we're going to meet those