[laughter] >> the source of all really good law clerk stories has to come from william o. douglas. whatever justice douglas was as a protecter of the environment, by most accounts he was a terrible man to work for and there's a story by one law clerk where doug lossson summoned him and asked him if he had written inside a new york -- united states reporter and the young man denied it. and he was saying in rage, books are temple. and then douglas takes the book and throws it, but he throwses it to hard and i get to out the window and lands on the ground and cracks the spine. and the law clerk stands there and didn't know what to do after being lectured how to take care of books. >> one time not too long ago, justice souter was driving from here to new hampshire and stopped in a restaurant to get something to east, and a couple came up to him and the guy said, i know you, you're on the supreme court. right? >> he said, yes. >> you're stephen bryer, right? and he didn't want to embarrass the fellow in front of his wife, and he said, yes. and they thatted which then the guy asked questi

they only talk about truman or william o. douglas as possibles. so, if wallace had gotten the nomination, might be running with a dying man who didn't want him on the ticket. >> very different reading, having been through that information for a long time. >> okay. >> that's a valid perspective on this. roosevelt in 1944 was getting very ill. the party bosses knew that he was feeble. there was almost -- no chance he would survive another word and they were going to try to get wallace off the ticket. it was run by the national chairman who ran the st. louis machine that got truman re-elected in 1940, and ed pauley. ed pauley was a california oil millionaire who said, i went into politics and realized it was cheaper to reflect new congress than buy the old one. he later gets indicted for a good reason. >> his name is on the pavilion in ucla. >> right. the -- so they decided they're going to try to surround roosevelt with all people who are hostile to wallace to convince him he can't get re-elected if wallace was on the ticket. wallace had enemies in