meredith shiner covers congress for roll call. were talking about how tough a road it is for legislation okay gun violence. >> uh-huh. >> a little easier for immigration reform? >> maybe. >> maybe? >> i hate to be cynical on this but show me the last bill that a gang of senators has been able to write. like until this group of 8 finds legislative language, in my mind, all they really agree to is to hold a conference about how they would like to find. >> principles. >> there is some will on the republican party to do this. and i had a source tell me. i don't know if i buy this theory but we will see if it bears fruit but a lot of republicans would like to, to see marco rubio run in 2016 and they feel like getting behind him will help on that effort. whether or not that ends up being true, i don't know. >> if someone like marco rubio wants to talk about immigration is important, what happened in the last election there is political incentive for the republicans to act which is the best reason of any to force a politician to do anyth