you know that kind of battering by mr graef today well the thing about competing too is we're talking about failing to compete as this it's a completed process but actually it's work in progress and that's exactly what morgan's morgan stanley's neil so let's listen to him the pint is not fixed it grow when you have liberalization of trade and investment that's the whole idea and rush. to win from this process it has to compete you can't just hide behind tariff barriers forever but if russia does engage those complete. can we market share such as i think is trying to win market share in turkey. spare bank is expanding into eastern europe and turkey if it does compete and does do well then i think russia will gain from the process of globalisation. and do some examples of a work in progress i would say in the bigger pie sounds like a good place to leave it let's move on to one of the hottest topics this week is the so-called debt ceiling in the united states the republicans are pretty much against boosting the limit on government borrowing but unless the ceiling is raised the world's la