mr. shaheen: it's not just the -- mrs. shaheen: it's not just the people who are fishing directly who are affected by this. it's also all of the other jobs that depend on that fishing industry that are going to be lost. mr. whitehouse: the engine repair people, the net repair people, the people who process the fish that are caught, the folks who sell fuel to the fishermen, the people who do maintenance on the boats. there's an entire economic ecosystem that is knocked down when the fishermen can't bring the catch home,ier, the senator is absolutely -- home, yes, the senator is absolutely correct. mrs. shaheen: and in my state where we only have 18 miles of coastline, we have 5,000 jobs that are dependent on this industry. so in rhode island and alaska, i'm sure that you all have a significant number of jobs dependent on the fishing industry. and what happens to those jobs if the industry doesn't survive? they're gone. mr. whitehouse: i think alaska may actually have more coastline than rhode island does. ms. murkowski: i th

shaheen. >> thank you, mr. chairman. senator hagel, thank you for your tremendous service in europe provided to this country and your willingness to take on this challenge as secretary of defense, and for your stamina at this hearing all day. you will certainly need it as secretary of defense. i want to follow up on senator kean pose a question about the navy. it is very important to us in new hampshire as well. our four public shipyards are the backbone of our naval power. but according to the navy, there is a huge backlog of restoration and modernization projects at our shipyards. according to last year's number, the backlog was around $3 billion at portsmouth naval shipyard, which we are all concerned about. that number was $513 million. it is not cost-effective. for example, the 2010 gop report pointed out that the pure project at northrop, which i'm sure senator mccain -- kaine is familiar with, if it had been addressed earlier, it would have cost much less. now it will cost about $5 million. in fiscal year 2012, se

shaheen. >> thank you, mr. chairman.senator kerry, i'm thrilled to be here on the other side of that desk is nominee for secretary of state. i can't think of anyone better to change the efforts of the current administration at this challenging time for the unied