which means holy warriors the taliban told me that we are the sons and the grandsons of the mujahideen when i was captured by the taliban and when i was in prison i had to listen for hours and hours and hours to taliban recruitment tapes and suicide recruitment tapes they talk of or they sing or chant of pashtoon history pashtoon geography pashtoon poetry this is a nationalist movement in their view they are simply trying to free themselves of foreign infidel invaders exactly like their fathers and grandfathers in order to have what they feel is a proper islamic government the taliban have become somewhat different. and that is it's a result of their ties to al qaeda. which is comprised of foreigners primarily. gyptian zx. chechens respects those from western china and even some from europe so al-qaeda is a different entity entirely it is strictly an interested in international jihad but the taliban have become because of their ties to al qaeda and because of the twenty four seven news cycle they have become far more international but deep down in their hearts they are interested in on

libyan islamic fighters to syria and they are operating in syria right now this group was founded of mujahideen veterans who had fought the soviet union in afghanistan so this group was put together in ninety five in working out a training camps partly in libya and often other coffees as well and they do have a historical connection to the western intelligence agencies and those agencies were working with during the nato overthrow of that country so you know we really have to look at these connections and not divorce them something already touched upon the fact that many blaming nato backing that may be in revolt for what's happening in the region what are the chances of all this returning to wreak even more havoc there in libya. well it's also important you know the libya was not a revolution a year ago it was far from it and what it was was it was a nato in a joint venture with a proxy guerilla force that did also include foreign fighters and military out that from possibly some of the gulf states like could talk are look the situation needs to be looked at as historical context so the i beli

i would say, generally, we had experience with the mujahideen. at critical times, they never accepted our point of view. the taliban should be free to talk with whoever they want. the can also stay in pakistan, like several million other afghans who work there. certainly, they ought not to misuse this hospitality. pakistan has to be very firm. pakistan and often stand should coordinate and cooperate with each other in controlling cross- border militancy. i personally believe there is no threat to pakistan or afghanistan along this border, except the kind of threat that both face on account of the extremists. finally, i would have a couple of observations about the question of u.s. forces post- 2014. the question of residual u.s. presence is being discussed now in washington at the highest level. much depends on the status of forces agreement, which is a complex political matter for president karzai. as regards pakistan, pakistan ought to accept whatever is decided. however, from pakistan's point of view, the downside of continued u.s. presence is

a role, but because of demographics, because of the fact that the taliban leadership, like the mujahideen leadership in the 1990's, happen to be in pakistan. what is it pakistan can do? we can apply some pressure, some persuasion. but if the perception is that we can arm twist anybody to accept any position, that will not be possible for pakistan. this is one point. about eagerness -- the moment you so eagerness, there are red lights everywhere. what is pakistan trying to do? for example, i made a comment that we should not be seeking a place at the table. there is no need for us. our role is there. but if we try to say in reconciliation, we must play a part, it is certainly going to be misinterpreted, unfortunately. we have a role, and we should play the role. i think those who want us to play the role must also understand our limitations. because of the conflict in afghanistan, and a conflict which now involves pakistan, there are no difficulties. earlier, here in the 1990's, with the iran conflict, here we thought if those would get resolved, there would be communication lines open bet

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i would say that the afghans generally, we have the experience of the mujahideen as well.at critical times, they've never accepted our advice or our point of view. the taliban should be free to talk to anyone that they want. they can also stay in pakistan like many, several million other afghans who are there. but certainly, they ought not to misuse this hospitality, and here pakistan has to be in the future very firm. and pakistan and, i would say, afghanistan they should coordinate and cooperate with each other in controlling cross-border militancy. i personally believe that there is no conventional threat to either pakistan or to afghanistan along this border except the kind of threat that both face on account of the extremists, the extremism and militancy. finally, i would have a couple of observations about the question of u.s. forces' withdrawal and the post-2014 scenario. the question of the presence is being discussed now in washington at the highest level. much depends on the status of force agreement which is a complex political matter for president car. presiden

he fought with mujahideen rebels in afghanistan in the early '90s and then participated in a devastatedhreb. >> he's called mr. marlboro because of his past with cigarette smuggling, as well as weapons and other paraphernalia. but later on over the past six to seven years, he's also been involved in a lot of hostage takings. >> reporter: a practice which allegedly made belmokhtar millions and made enemies within al qaeda. because his gangster ways didn't live up to the jihadist ideal or made his cohorts jealous, belmokhtar split with the leadership of al qaeda in the islamic maghreb last year. he formed a commando unit called those who signed this blood, those who launched this hostage taking in algeria. would belmokhtar have tried to kill whatever hostages were left? >> mokhtar belmokhtar has a track record of trying to get something out of every terrorist attack that he carries out. and so just executing hostages has never really been his m.o. >> reporter: and there's a chance that belmokhtar may be wheeling and dealing again. a news agency reports in exchange for american hostages, t