sondheim: lenny was easily intimidated by jerry.ard bernstein was afraid of two things -- god and jerry robbins. sondheim: there was one point where jerry, who was dissatisfied with the orchestration went down and with lenny sitting out front, just started to dictate, said, "i don't want that instrument there, take that rhythm out," et cetera, right to the players in the orchestra. it was completely humiliating, and i expected there to be some kind of big fight, and there wasn't. lenny left the theater. difficult as he was to work with -- and you know he could be a really mean and -- and awful man -- i would work with him any time. it's just, it's worth it. the end product is worth it. he does get not only the best out of you, he makes it -- some of his invention rubs off on you. you get more inventive when you work with jerry robbins. dale: opening night in new york. leonard bernstein conducted. as the curtain went down there was nothing, and all the way down to the bottom, and there was nothing. dale: and the curtain went up, and