it was probably the longest and we took one after world war twr and almost lost the korean peninsula. it was unpopular. truman couldn't run for re-election because of it. we took a vacation. we had nuclear weapons supposedly make up for it and we had vietnam and we took another vacation. i think we got it right after the cold war. we're in to a different era. more than any ones i remember, the economic impacts of spending are a national security problem i would agree with that and agree with people who say we can't continue to lead unless we fix our economy. i think it's wrong to say we'll fix our economy by reducing the defense spending. with e can't fix our economy unless we tackle the entitlement issue. before long the entitlements would eat up put us in a terrible deficit problem. so if we have to leave, which i think we do, if we have to be able to afford to leave. which i think we must. i think we have to fix our economy. it's bigger problem than the defense budget. >> mark, do you want to -- make -- mike do you want to weigh? >> no, i'm ready to hear from the crowd, myself. rig