the units that they are in were once renter-occupied units. we can debate how exactly they got vacant for this occupancy. they were units that will at some point be renter occupied units again, maybe in a year, where people will sell and move, maybe longer but they will become renter occupied units if not currently. and they will not be rent control. the elephant in the room is the costa hawkins rental housing act state law that says you cannot have rent control on these units once they are condos and that's the problem. and fundamentally, when i see mr. sullivan with charts, i think that chart proves the point. if he's showing evictions are down because it's more difficult to convert to condos... >> chair wiener: thank you. thank you. >> ted, san francisco tenants union. i want to remind us all this is an extremely difficult market for renters right now where the new dotscom boom arging well over 1230 a month, evictions have been tripling and it's a tough time for renters. the two most important laws protecting renters are the condo conversio

sanchez rightly stated, that permit should have went from two units to three units.on with this but it doesn't seem it's right that certificateé# of final completion. i contacted>fv3d after the hearing and offered him through the building department unit verification process which usually is more in depth. it brings up water department records, city assessment records, all of the building&f9iú departments so we can lay it out and see what we have. from what i've seen on the brief at the previous hearing we don't have a full picture here and there's obviously -- i can see errors with the permit -- the application, and the cfc where we had axj v single family é3 on the application, a nn-q cfc permit that says three units. so it needs to]lb be cleared up, but -- and i offered him to go through the unit verification. so i'm available -- >> thatqd,bc offer accepted? >> yes i believe -- >> vice president fung: and the results? >> we haven't started itç1 >> whenç<-(dój was the hearing? what was the date of the -- >> we're actually meeting tomorrow morning. >> but when was t

states not to the united states or the united states citizens security wise secure no it's security wise it's no threat to the united states it's a threat to the uni polar vision of the western uni polar vision of the world it's a threat to us in germany it's a threat to the us being able to exert political military economic influence in different areas of the world that's the threat that russia presents to the united states and russia is in that case the biggest threat to the united states in the world china has the capability but not the political will it's part of their nature as an elite they're all engineers within the pullet bureau they don't they don't they don't have that aggressive combative attitude russia has some semblance of the ability. increasing after having faded but they have the political will where no other country in the world has been reading my notes multi-polar world if you think russia is being vindicated slowly but surely that's the path that the world should take because when you look at major foreign policy initiatives the united states they're always bac

in terms of units, it's 60 plus percent of the units. i dent have the off-site. it's the least chosen option. >> >> those tend to be 100% affordable? >> or to be mixed in with a portion of another development. and anecdotally they seem to be 100% affordable, but i don't have the data. >> if you are off-site, are you able to take advantage of tax credits or some other sorces of funding? >> no, it wouldn't align with a kind of 60% ami tax credit and, in fact, the program prevents you from meeting your inclusionary obligation through the taking advantage of other subsidies. so we wouldn't see that alignment. >> so they are generally done not with other subsidies? >> that is my understanding. the 70% threshold is in the code. these are great questions and policy questions to come back and address, but our procedures manual update doesn't contemplate a change to that. >> i wasn't familiar with the offsite ami was encouraged. there is some reason if the ami is lower off-site, that is some rationale to have them offsite? >> i can come back and report on that. i think it

yes exactly united states. gets more of damage because united states is much more active but even for russia i think the major major point to you we can see. articles oh it's absolutely impossible to understand what's happening let's be cautious and that there's he blamed states for you know want to give you the last word in the program how are we going to see mr obama and mr putin meet after all of the things that are said about putin well i think that on the russian side there will still be a hand outstretched because as i told you the russian elite wants to east wants to be friends with the americans the problem is that it was not accepted back in the ninety's and even now and the whole conflict inside the russian and what we see now in the media you know with ace and time again it's good deals and other things this is basically a fight of two groups within the russian elite one group says do everything that they want the other one says fascinating discussion thank you very much all right we have run out of

of those approximately 860 are ownership units and 420 are rental units. again i have all of this on a handout that i will give for you for a total of 1280. we have an additional 1200 units in the pipeline that are ready to go. of those the percentage of rental and ownership still shift as we go through the development process. in the past as miss egan mentioned, ownership units used to be the majority to be produced. you had also asked a little bit about the demographics especially in terms of race and ethnicity as to who is in our units. so we took a snapshot and looking at who is our rental and ownership households of december, 2012 and compared that to the relevant citywide distribution of race and ethnicity. so let me start on the rental side. it turns out that the number of households of color in our bmr program overall is actually overrepresented. there is a larger percentage of asian african-american latino and more specifically for people who might be interested, for example, the percentage of asian pacific islander households in the 0-50 ami is 5

the unit that mr. paul was showing was in fact the new third unit at the ground floor and i'm not certain, and may clarify, that doesn't seem to be the biggest objection. it was the second and third floor additions is my understanding. we are limiting with the space on the ground floor and accommodating the off street parking as required in this zoning district and neighborhood. we are limited in terms of square footage on the ground floor. it is only a smaller two bedroom unit and yes, there is ample living room in the living space, but again the intent here is these could be family size units and even if this one with two bedrooms. further it mitigates the large extension of the western building and not something that comes as the applicants stated and they go back to the views, the views, the views. we have offered if there issues with privacy to put landscaping in if that is the general problem as well as privacy issues. taking the clear glassing windows that look into the rooms at the rear of the

so for any units over 100, the requirements would be 1:4 units. so for example, a 200-unit residential building will require 125 bicycle parking spaces. and also there will be an examp required distance between racks and also the distance to a curb or wall. another incentive offered is a line conversion of auto parking to bike parking. existing bike parking requirements also allow such conversion, for class 1 parking is required. however, this provision in the code does not specify any details and therefore remains unclear and really hard to implement. our proposal would provide specific ratios to convert an auto parking to class 1 or class 2 bicycle parking spaces and at minimum, each auto parking space can be replaced with seven bike parking spaces of any combination. existing buildings also could voluntarily convert their auto parking space to bike parking and i want to highlight that this is -- this requirement would just allow project sponsor and property owners to convert auto parking to bicycle parking and they are not mandating such conver

a one or two unit building.d the confusion because thatch interpretation of the appellant which in fact there this is a one or two unit building. that proves our position that it was in fact3&b $r a two;ojmg unit building. also i would note building use was filled out as a one family dwelling. if they can provide evidence ofó0::8 y a building permit=,bfm application reviewed by the san francisco planning department and approved at ajkb!f dwelling unit which wouldn't have been allowed because the zoning would have limited it to two units(jp/i but had!jpdq third unit been allowed it would haveze+v3i required neighborhood notification, they have would have had to meet requirements for open:: space, exposure, parking. there'sg0 with that i'm available for any questions. thank you. >> vice president fung: were you aware of that 1999 permit? >> yes. it was referenced, and i included a summary of that in our appeal brief for the initial hearing. and i know that the -- they're relyingz/g third unit. and at the previous

it's a common sense measure for maximum notification of smoke free units in our multi unit buildings. so, colleagues, i'm asking for your support. i think this is important because it's bringing together not only tenant organizations but also the landlord organizations, the san francisco apartment association, with the mission sro collaborative which was the major impetus with other tenant organizations in supporting this to create stronger public health policies and to limit second hand smoke in multi unit buildings. the hazards as we said before of second hand smoke is well documented. there's no safe exposure level, it's cancer-causing, it's toxic, it leads to thousands and thousands of deaths each year and by limiting access to second hand smoke, it's protecting people's health. also, when people live in close proximity to units where there are smokers in apartment buildings or multi unit buildings, they are in danger of the smoke seeping into or kind of coming into their units or common areas as well and this can result in prospective tenants really being exposed to hazardous air

i have legalized dozens of dwelling units, illegal units, for people in san francisco. in the last 10 years, there has been a sea change within the bureaucracy, the building and planning departments, where the attitude has been very proactive in trying to help property owners bring things up to code and to save these old, illegal units, rather than force them to be abandoned. the attitude of the city has really changed a lot and people are more likely to get help from their building inspector rather than enforcement. >> what i had hoped we could do is look at this little hand out for further discussion. starting on page one, it is from a website, home remodeling magazine, there is a long list of things supposedly san francisco-based, adjusted for local conditions, and how much of the cost you can expect to recoup for the work you're doing in the building. if you're doing work because you want to live there and you want to appreciate the improvement, that is different. if you're doing work with a clear eye to how much you can get back, i am shocked to see under the colum

it is to get more students out of larger units and into the smaller units in the city. particularly i want to thank you the planning staff that did on this. a few of you have been there through the wool process. please move this forward >> thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners my name is david i'm with the college of the arts. where a 1 hundred and 6-year-old institution founded during the earthquake. the lack of affordable student housing in the city is impacting the ability of san francisco colleges to attract the best student. as you know the colleges have been working with each other in the san francisco area that will help developmenters to bring solutions to our area. when i searched the business wants to review some of the milestones in this issue i came across some articles. as tim mentioned terrific work by planning staff has been tremors and ron if you're watching thank you. students bring a unique housing opportunity. they don't drag things along as they move instead, they arrive in san francisco with a bike they walk bike or take transit everywhere. the

and the future unit. please help my family and other trapped t.i.c. owners in the city. and i have to add that this is the first time, after many, many years, that i feel there is some likelihood of this very long tunnel. thank you for your time. >> chair wiener: thank you. i will call more names. josephine -josephine --y, shirl, shirley, christina, chin, ingles, jim inglings, jake block, chi, jane, susan, kay walker, deborah -- brian blake, iris, martis, gran, stacy, kevin, rose, and beth palmer. next speaker. >> thank you. my name is -- i'm a district 8 t.i.c. owner. i purchased a three unit t.i.c. in 2007, with a 20% downpayment. i lived with my wife and two children. since the peak of the market there's been a dynamic change in the financial lending practices of banks in the bay area that i believe is quite unfair. right now, we have tried to sell one of the three units in our building twice, with no success, due to the inability to refinance. additionally, my partner and i have tried to refinance our

so for any units over 100, the requirements would be 1:4 units. so for example, a 200-unit residential building will require 125 bicycle parking spaces. and also there will be class 2 requirements for projects -- residential probings projects which are geared towards visitors and guests. our proposal would better align these types defined for bicycle parking with other requirements such as car parking and grouped based on trip generation types and volume. so the requirements, there are only use types under commercial and that will change to more detailed categories. such as retail sales, personal services and restaurants, light manufacturing and so forth. in order to prescribe the amounts of bicycle parking for each of these unit categories, staff compared each use category to comparable cities and overall, we thought to get bicycle parking for

bill don't you find it very problematic that the united states likes to support the i.c.c. against its enemies but it's not a member of it and will not join it it's hypocrisy absolutely. yeah. that is a very appropriate allegation of hypocrisy and i have spoken out publicly in favor of the u.s. joining the i.c.c. i think it's outrageous that we claim to be a country devoted to the principles of. vod justice and equity and yet do not join an international organization. that upholds those principles the i.c.c. was created largely as a result of pressure being brought by n.g.o.s such as human rights watch and amnesty international and so forth. the governments were not pressing the governments were brought into it but the problem is that many of the important countries of the world the great powers of the world if you will including the united states china japan india and so forth have refused to join it and as long as those countries are repudiating the i.c.c. it loses its credibility ok lawrence i mean what do you think about this i mean you've got a who looks out to the uni

unit. protject will convert a site into productive mix used development. it's consistent with respect to the existing neighborhood character and appropriate in fill development and complements the pattern and provides transition from highway 101 to the east and directly behind to the property to the mex use neighborhood across the street. project promotes the local businesses and the use of the district and would not replace a retail tenant because the project is vacant and consistent with the octaves and policies of the general plan and complies with the local first hiring program. that concludes my presentation and staff recommends approval with conditions and i am available for questions. >> thank you. project sponsor. >> good afternoon commissioners. jeremy shaw project architect with gable architects. i just wanted to briefly go over the history of this project. i am sure you have seen a drawing. this is our third time being here so just want to go over the history of our client purcha

the reason we choose to do two units is owner -- [inaudible] for two unit for several issue. one for three unit we will have to provide two sets of stair so we will have entrance in the front and exit in the front, so it will reduce area. that's one reason, and the other reason it will be very difficult for us to convert to three unit because of the building code regulation. it's almost like impossible. we have to take down 50% of the building to put in the third unit, so he has no intention to put another unit on each building, so it will be remaining as two unit building and office on the second floor and ground floor retail. >> thank you. because that kind of addresses my concerns and we have townhouse type units, each of these units have up stairs and downstairs. >> no. it's a flat. two residential flat and front and back office and what we found out on san bruno avenue some office they have vacancy but looking at those really huge, 5,000, 3,000 square foot, but 1,000 square foot office is desirable. maybe accountant, architect, small office or if they want it bicker they

i get concerned about market absorption at artera had 12 units of parking, hayes had three units. those are difficult to fill. i understand we're in a very nice location transit wise, but i'm sensitive to that and i am sensitive to the fact that the burden we put on the project, the community benefits that we will be providing. so, that's my rationale. >> thank you. >> call the question. >> commissioners, there is a motion with a second, to approve with conditions as proposed by staff. commissioner antonini? >> no. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 5 to 1. commissioners, that will place you on your next items under your regular calendar. given the proximity of location and similarity in proposal, items 9, 10, and 11 will be called up together to be heard as -- to be heard together, but be voted on separately. commissioners, items 9, 10 and 11, case numbers 2012.0505c, 1101 fillmore street, 2012.0602c, 1290

we recognize the united states interest and afghanistan and the region and the united states recognizes that afghanistan is a good country. and has a life of its own. it has a law of its own and has a social context of its own. in that social context afghanistan will move forward in partnership with america and also until partnership with the other countries of nato that have helped us in the past many years. will afghanistan, beyond 2014, be a country that you can visit as tourists? yes, it will. will afghanistan suffer the consequences of terrorism? it might on occasions. will the peace process work? it will. will the peace process take us back to times where the afghan woman could not go to work? no. will we keep our progress it is part of if peace process? yes. it is important today to get through this forum where the afghan woman council was created many years ago. if afghanistan will have peace but peace with the taliban will not drive us away from the gains that we have made. rather those gains will definitely be consolidated and those gains will remain with the afghan people. yo

the united states have been talking to beijing for years but it was this very narrow kind of dialogue very focused on grievance american grievances toward china and what china was going to need to do to to bring itself in line with american preferences nixon and kissinger flip that on its head they said we are going to convey to the chinese both in words and in actions that we we accept the people's republic of china and on that basis the rest of these issues can be taken care of that's what enabled this dramatic turn in american diplomacy toward china that's what we need to do toward the islamic republic of iran to accept it and then to back that up with concrete actions in terms of rolling back covert action programs in terms of stopping economic warfare against iran but what are the chances for diplomacy i mean iran is surrounded by u.s. military bases by nato patriot missiles they have to sanctions that are crippling the rate in economy it seems there's more ground for blackmail now than for diplomacy unfortunately i think that is the american hope that we can still force coerce o

in the refugee program, having worked with the united states or a u.s.-affiliated organization is one of the criteria that can help you get access to the program but it is not the sole criteria. >> this has been such a good hearing and a serious issue. we want to make sure that we continue this program -- these programs -- ensuring the safety of the refugees and the safety of the americans. have you been briefed on any possible effect that sequestration might have on the departments and these programs? >> at the state department, we have looked at overall sequestration. i know that our program has been adequately funded in the past. our expectation is that, in the coming year, that the program should be able to continue at similar levels. it would be hard to say it would be at the same level. a lot of the infrastructure we have in place overseas and domestically i think will remain. the question will probably be what happens in longer-term and i cannot answer that at this point. >> uscis is in an unusual position in that most of our programs including th

unit. of the housing stock is not affected only the mechanism of ownership but this is important. ting t.i.c. results in more flexibility. housing stock is improved as --- physical system awch as plumbing and wiring are brought up to code. while affordable housing stock is scarce in san francisco, for rental, affordable housing for purchase is also very scarce. and t.i.c. or condo is the most affordable type of owner housing. increasing the housing stock is critical for both rental and owner housing. last friday the chronicle indicated that several thousand apartments are in the pipeline for delivery over the next three years. less than 10% of these will be available to be converted to condos. while many of the apartments will be outrageously priced there will be some move-up renters which should open some apartments. only about a third of san franciscans own their homes and two-thirds nationally own their home. this indicates a backlog of demand for home ownership. trying to address the co

the unit from them because we could not sell the unit.st ridiculous what the financing situation is -- forced us to do. they're our friends. what are we going to do. plan c doesn't solve everything but i think it does a lot for people in our situation. thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name's cole, i'm a t.i.c. owner occupier in the lower haight. it's a three unit building with one unit that's occupied. if this legislation passes i see three things happening with that building. myself and the other owner will have to get a good secure hopefully 30 year loan at 3% rather than the 6% we're currently paying. making life much easier for us, making it ease wh easier for usy in the city. the tenant occupied unit, the tenant will be given a lifetime lease. she's a lawyer, will have no -- enforcing that. the organization will get 145,000 from the quers. -- conversion. san francisco is famous for looking after its minorities. please give a little bit back to the middle and support the condo bypass. >> chair wiene

at the same time, a lot of expansion is in the united states, once the united states captured mexicoity begin to argue that, in fact, maybe the u.s. should annex all of mexico. after all, you've are recaptured the capital city, why not take it all? people around the country began to question whether this war should go on any further. the turning point occurs two months after scott occupies mexico city. on november 14, 1847, when henry clay give them major antiwar speech in lexington, kentucky, after the war. against the war. now, clay have been out of the public spotlight since its disastrous and terrible defeat by james k. polk in the election of 1844. a defeat which he never expected and, frankly, did not believe. and the defeat was probably caused by the fact that he was opposed to the war. unfortunately, henry clay not only have suffered through the defeat at his namesake and favorite son henry clay junior, like john j. hardin although he was awake, volunteered to lead troops into mexico. so junior becomes a leader, a kentucky troops, takes them down to mexico and he is killed at

i know there's concern about whether $4,000 per unit can mitigate the loss of rent control units. beyond the normal existing procedure that we have currently for -- to ensure that there's sort of a metered rate at which we lose -- basically lose rent controlled units. >> supervisor farrell: i challenge probably the premise of that comment but i will say that the amount of fee reduction was a balancing act -- and to the city attorney can speak to further detail about that. we have to match that with the nexus study but also there is at a certain point a breakage point where people will not be incentivized to go forward and pay a fee. if they are seniority base you have a greater chance of winning the lottery. if you have missed it for x number of years you will be much closer going forward based upon seniority so therefore the incentive will not be there if you have to pay that higher fee. >> co-chair kim: the next set of questions were for the city attorney and this is around the lifetime leases. and i welcome the spirit of the intent, that comes behind that. of course my question

units, and 51 two-bedroom units. the project provides on-site open space two interior court yards and one common accessible roof deck. housing requirements would be satisfied through the land dedication of 1296 shotwell street to the mayor's office of housing. the project is also seeking an in kind agreement by the portion of the eastern neighborhoods impact fees which will be brought forward to the commission at a later date. further rehabilitation of the new mission theater, a proposed project includes exterior and interior alterations and changed use from single screen to five screen doing business as alamo house cinema. [speaker not understood], subdivision of the main auditorium, it's a five theaters and electrical and plumbing upgrades. on december 19, 2012, the project received a certificate of appropriateness from the historic preservation commission for exterior and interior alteration to the new mission theater. in addition to the 12 letters of support included within your packet, the department has receive

from( rv three units down to two units. and a notice of special restrictions were recorded but recorded against the>c9kñz the wrong property description so that my clients, when they bought the property some years later, had no notice of the notice of special restrictions reducing the property building count from three units to two.ap3y since ouruaüearing we discovered pg&e documents clearly showing that after that notice of special restriction wasoa recorded and after the building permit wasés%( issued reducing it from three k,8ñ units to two units pg&e was issued permits to install four electrical meters on the property, three gas meters on the property and we alsoy:::wx have uncovered, from the department of building inspection records,? .b its own certificate ofm?g completion and occupancya nzl in 1980 -- excuse me, in 1999, years following the previous@$jpd owner's building permit reducing it from three units to two. i'd like to show you this, if i could. this:jp$e÷ document clearly says the certificate of final comple

these are for sale units? >> undetermined at this point. >> yeah, but i mean your condo conversion -- >> they will be condo mapped. >> i was trying to look through and read -- i should have done this in the report. are the conversions all two bedrooms? >> this is something ben and i was talking about outside. there are different sizes. >> so you've got good size units. that's very good. >> yeah. >> now the final thing and i am concerned about staff had brought up the -- you've got ground floor retail and then you've got second floor office. >> correct. >> and i would like to suggest to the commissioners that we pass some notice of special restrictions to ensure the community they're not converted into living units and there be some kind of specification that inspections are made. >> sure. >> on a regular basis to make sure they're uses are conforming and the purpose is what stated for and not to add more residents which would negate the more parking because they would have more cars. >> sure. >>i think that oc

the federal administration is pledging to work with boeing and in the united states with united airways, the the operator of the planes at the moment, to work at what is going on, in particular with these lithium batteries to see whether there is a flaw or a serious fire risk spreading through the rest of the aircraft. what is not clear is what happens to the 787's operated by all the airline that does listed that are operating outside of the united states. the faa has no authority over them, but what normally happens is because most of the airlines if not all of them fly into u.s. air space at one point or another, the airlines usually acquiesce and do not fly the planes while the temporary ban is going on here in the u.s. aerospace. it is potentially a very serious problem for boeing of seattle and chicago. >> thank you very much. is trying toitary secure the release of dozens of foreign workers kidnapped and gas facility in the east. people have been killed after citizens from norway, the u.k., united states, and japan were taken. the group that carried out the attack claims it is a

they also sent smaller naval units and air units, but, still, there were combat units fighting outside of saigon and the province working with the united states, working with the south vietnamese and other allies, the fill pee -- filipinos and others. the thai's had 500 die in south vietnam while fighting what was called the vetcong, and those who don't know the history of thai involvement dismiss them as an insulting term, and they paid for the -- a lot of the military hardware and transportation and logistic and extra pay that the tie troops receive, and they focus on those thais who engaged in black market schemes, but truth is thai soldiers were fighting and dying for years. thailand was carrying out the war, what they saw as their war in south vietnam, and so the casualties are something we should keep in mind. >> host: professor, thai-u.s. relations, when did they start to really jell? tieland's been an ally for a long time, participated in the iraq war, world war ii. >> guest: absolutely. i mean, you could date back to the example of offerings to lincoln of war eel faints for th

the reduction in size has changed the unit mix and size of some of the units and there are now more one-bedrooms than before and we have 32 parking spaces, 27 for 27 units, 3 for community assigned and two for car-share. excuse me. next, please. this is a little bit burnt out, i apologize, but you have it in your package. the rendering in the middle is the design rejected at the conditional use application in june. to the left is our first attempt at the demasing of the building and running along the bottom there are sequential demasing proposals that were discussed with members of the community, polk neighbors to try to achieve a compromise that would work for all. in the end, we did something a little different from the right-hand slide. that is the design it's used to be. this is the design as it is now. we're going to do a little bit of back and forth here. what we have here -- and i will speak loud enough to be heard -- what we have here is an attempt to create ambiguity about the building . is it really one building? the same concept [ inaudible ] >> if you can maybe -- so they can catch t

sized unit. and working on the solar panels to be in the flatter configuration. >> if the secretary is okay with it. i will second that amendment. >> second. >> commissioners you have a motion and second. amending the proposal to incorporate a floor to floor height no greater than 11' 1" and flat solar panels. (roll call ) >> so moved commissioners that motion passes 6-1. commissioners that will place you on your final regularly calendared item no. 17. 27-29 sutro heights avenue discretionary review. >> excuse me, commissioner secretary, the gentleman wants to raise a continuance request. >> i apologize. there was a request for continuance that the project sponsor and staff was not supportive of commissioners. >> yes. president fong, members of the commission. my name is bruce prescott and i represent the discretionary review requester, lawrence rambling. this case was initially set to be on hearing on the november 15th hearing as a result of a procedural error, apparently, it had to be continued

since we started the united states. iran goes back 2,500 years. that's realizing the temples, every temple has the everlasting right to king dorias. now suddenly you have this hate with the jewish population worldwide. i believe what you said, you put a very big key on this. i'm admiring everything you've said. but i believe one of the worst is the loss of the trust. put yourself, any one of us today, would we trust america if if we were a head of state of iran, what they did to the shah of iran? this is what's frightening. and if that could ever be repaired, it's fragile, in my opinion, and very key. i know iran, i know the old royal family, i knew -- traveled with the everyone rest. i believe, you've said is right. i have one other quick question because i don't want to disturb you. what about egypt today? the islamic republic? what will happen there? because nobody really knows, but that's very key. whispers are they're going to give relations to israel, under the table relations. i hope i'm right with my information