as a matter of fact, having employer-based health care is bad for american business eriod. it hurts our international competitiveness. we would be better to move away from that system and replace it with something else, with guaranteed coverage for everybody. >> brenda: okay, john layfield, tell me what you think about that? >> i think free pizza for everybody. let's just get the rich kids to pay for it, isn't that what the student council ran on this last election. >> the slice-- >> and the problem we have here is we did not have health reform, we had insurance reform. what john is talking about is right, we added 30 to 50 million people to the reform-- to the insurance rolls. we did nothing with health care. we pushed off the cough and all the things that are going to happen into this election cycle after the last election and we're starting to see this now. this is not free. >> brenda: in fact, cbo, which is nonpartisan says thatebt will ris sharply relative to gdp after the health care plan is fully implemented. jonas, does that concern you? >> you know, it isn't going