we have been 21 andover. there was ample precedents for these events in the city. it was our personal belief that if you could fight or die for the country or vote in an election, you should be able to go to a party. [applause] the folks that we were working with at the police department were hesitant about that. to address their concerns we agreed to very stringent beer gardens, which we did not feel like needed, but we did it in order to produce the event. later, we found out it would not be an 18 and older event. it essentially became a non- negotiable item. if we wanted them to sign off on the permit, with a bar, which was a major revenue stream, we had to be 21 and over. being a promoter and organizer with a long history of doing these events without problems, with a curved track record, that seemed like a perfect result. the police requirement at the event looked like two cops, with no problems with nothing to do, there were five officers at the event now, which we had to pay overtime fees for. trying to discuss this with the officers, public safety is brough

for this evening andover night, scatter evidence showers. the stead your stuff will make it here in time for the morning commute. tomorrow at 1:00, livermore, redwood city, san jose getting moderate rainfall. snow levels are going to drop. if you near live st. helena, don't be surprised if you see light at the top of these mountains. the snow level will reichly drop down to 2,000 feet by tomorrow evening. we will have the full forecast in about nine minutes. >> thanks, paul. >>> it is the shove being felt across college basketball. cal coach montgomery getting physical with the star player. we have the reaction from kpix 5's don knapp. >> emotions overtook cal coach. it was the kind of thing that could end a coach's career. he had a quick response. the shoved player was diplomat exsaying he is my coach and there are no hard feelings. i have to leave it at that. it motivated me. >> we most certainly have a problem when disrespect begins to come from the top because you are teaching young people something about being young men, about being res

but now schools in north andover, massachusetts, they're letting parents know when they think the child0-year-old cameron watson's family received a letter indicating his body mass index was higher than it should be. the father says the second grader is not overweight. and now families are speaking out why these letters are a complete waste. our affiliate hdh has the story. >> reporter: cameron watson isn't just a strong athlete. >> i wrestle, play football, i ride bikes, play basketball, baseball, mma. >> reporter: he's a tough fourth grader who didn't let a fat letter home get him down. >> i know i'm not obese so i didn't really care about the letter. i just crumpled it up. >> reporter: letter like this going to plenty of homes throughout the commonwealth. the department of health says 30% of our students have a body mass index showing they're obese and these letters are to be a helpful tool to parents. cameron's dad says they're a waste. they don't take into account muscle mass. >> no one wants to get a letter saying they're obese. we didn't see it fitting with our son. he's very act

parents in north andover are getting what's being called fat letters about their kids.en showing you this little guy who is a 10-year-old who got one. he is not boggered by it, but his dad is. >> i am not obese so i just crumpled it up. >> that's a strong uncomfortable word and we didn't see it fitting with our son who is very active and strong. >> on the flip side, i want to get in with the massachusetts department of health saying bmi screenings are intended to raise awareness about the issue. parents and guardians are given the opportunity to waive their child's bmi screening at school. the results are directly and confidentially communicated to the parents or guardians of each student and we should find out as we did the district is sending home letters who are under weight as well. we will bring you all back in. let me start as a fitness expert. school going too far? good for them. >> i think that we have a health epidemic. with 2/3 of adults overweight or obese and 1/3 of children, we have a problem. yes, adults and parents need to know about the health styles of

tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 >>> live pictures, andover, massachusetts, not sure what i'm looking at. maybe the side of a sign, you see a snow shovel there, people are getting ready as the storm is really going to hit in a matter of hours. we're going to talk to chad myers about what you need to know. >> it is a yardstick. >> oh, it is a yardstick. oh, my gosh, i need glasses. it is a yardstick. that yardstick will clearly be much of it hidden once the snow starts to fall. we're going to come back to that here in a minute. right now, we have to talk about big bear, california, for any sign. they're searching, any sign of this former police officer who is clearly has some kind of vendetta against the force, seeking revenge. snow is falling on big bear. schools are closed today. families warned to stay inside. police found christopher dorner's burnt out truck in the area. now they want to find him. he is the man who vowed war on the l.a. police department. former pd s.w.a.t. team sergeant andy lampry joins me in los angeles. before we go to you, if i may, i want to go to nick valencia,

. >> his mother a select woman in north andover is working with state representatives to stop the so-called would think as a parent of four kids that that would not be helpful. >> they do the tests in the school including, you know, body mass index, you know, height, weight, and they extend the result out. and i'd like to know the results of the tests for my kids. >> in a way that's helpful. it's not enough to know that you failed math, it's not enough to know your bmi is 92, you need to figure out -- >> what do you do otherwise? >> what are you going to do with the information? >> it's up to you as a parent. >> are you arguing? that's it! got to take a break. >>> still ahead on "starting point," if you love that free unlimited music on pandora, i have some news for you. the streaming service is making some big changes. we'll tell you what's happening there. >>> and olympic gymnast and international sensation will tell us about her future coming up next. gles. it's marching to the beat of a different drum. and where beauty meets brains. it's big ideas with smaller footprints. and knowing th

one is talking therapy and when his of andover the elevator and then over the bridge with somebody driving you and then gradually get used to it so that is prolonged exposure. the other type of therapy is medication can usually is a type of wild anti-depressant that we call selective serotonin inhibitors. it is a long to name and a safe and effective for ptsd putative >> our guest is retired colonel special assistant for mental health at the office of the army surgeon general in the private practice in this thread actually working in washington d.c.. >> she's our guest for the next 35 minutes or so as we take your calls on veterans' and mental health and divide our usual lines. if you are suffering from ptsd and would like to hear your story as well. here is the number for you to call if you are out there as retired military suffering from ptsd or not is it in your view the veterans department doing enough for the soldiers coming back from conflict when it comes to the mental health issues? >> i think that both the military and veterans' department of affairs are doing everything they can

launching military action potentially unleashes harm, or forces over which, that which we do not know andover which we do not have control. we should be circumspect and find other ways of supporting the people of syria. >> no-fly zone? >> all those are standard options. humanitarian corridor. if you want to deny the use of helicopter gunships, you can establish a no-fly zone. but as we saw in libya, these are not decisions that are taken by politicians and senators in washington. these are decisions that have to be calculated at the pentagon, and the political cost has to be evaluated in the white house. if you're going to do what you have to do fully and effectively. and if you can't have, yeah, can't have an operation. so if you're going to go that route you have to be fully committed to its success. >> please join me in thanking david phillips for a wonderful presentation, a preview of a great book. showing the relevance of your work and your ideas. thank you much. >> thank you, michael. [applause] >> and thank you all for being with us today. >> we are learning today the president obama h