and edmund white, and brenda wineapple and jay parini. and are subject today, "the biographer as autobiographer and the limits of objectivity," which is a subject very dear to me in which i dreamed up. which is a lie. now, i would like to begin very practically by mentioning the biographies of each of our, i guess you're not contestants -- [laughter] >> are participants. well, after that harold bloom -- have written and then ask you what it is that drew you to these particular subjects. in each case it will be different perhaps my but perhaps also a committee of theme will emerge. and i won't describe all their books, which are profoundly and numerous. but just for our purposes here, phyllis is the author on virginia woolf, the biography of josephine baker, and as literary classic parallelize. and edmund is the author among many other books in various forms, wonderful novelist and essayist, the biography of jean genet, and beautifully brief biographies of proust and rimbaud. emily dickinson, hawthorne, and jay, when falcon, john steinbeck