piers morgan about that and his own relationship with president obama. >> last time we spoke, you sort of suggested you didn't have much of a relationship with president obama. have things improved or deterioratedto the speech, i was in atlanta to make a speech myself, i couldn't go. but he met my grandson, who was in the state senate. he met my grandson, who was the won who found the 47% tape and -- >> won him the election. >> i personally think so. james, my grandson, who did that, was born a month after i moved to the white house. >> so basically, carter won obama the election? >> well, i think so. that's kind of a prejudiced -- >> but it was a key moment, actually. do you think that was the pivotal moment in destroying mitt romney's chances? >> i think it was. it was something he could not deny and it stuck with him for the rest of the election and i think it was a major factor if not the major factor. and when james went to meet president obama, president obama ran across the room, embraced him, and thanked him, for the first time, by the way -- >> last week, for the first time -- did he actually say, thank you for winning the election? >> i don't think he said for winning the election, bu