also, by hillco partners, texas governmental affairs conservancy and hillco health, by and the alice clay burg reynolds foundation and viewers like you, thank you. >> i'm evan smith, she's an experimental musician, composer, performance artist and artist whose embrace of technology has been a defining aspect of her extraordinary career. she's lor lore laurie anderson, this is overheard. laurie anderson, welcome. >> thank you. >> very nice to meet you, very nice to have you here, appreciate it. >> does thht word experimental bother you. you've been described that way for so long, probably no longer makes notice, you probably never think about ii. i wonder if it pegs you in some way that you don't want to be pegged. >> i don't mind being pegged. reminds me of beakers. >> science. >> whoops, yeah, that's fine. >> what do you think that it means in a very literal sense for your work? if it's an appropriate way to describe you, what do you think it means? >> you won't hear it on the radio. >> yep. >> you are sort of an itinerant person, which i can really relate to. i really like going to

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business giant, hillco health. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation, and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith, he's a pulitzer prize winning reporter nd best selling author whose biographies of bill clinton and vince lombardi of compelling. his latest is barack obama thhe's david maraniss. this is overheard. ♪ >> david maraniss, welcome. >> thank you, evan. >> great to see you. >> terrific o be here. >> this is a great book and the subject is so big, but i want to go kind of away from the book and ask generally about this president and why after all these years we still don't know where he's from, who he is, donald trump is asking for his college transcripts. i mean, there's not been a person in public life i would submit to you, about whom so much has been written, although out in the world so much apparently is still unknown. >> well, it's not unknown. >> of course i'm being facetious. >> he's the first african-american president. that's the first and only reason for all of this. >> this is all