mr. al-awlaki where he was in the yemen? >> we work very closely with yemenis to see if we can arrest individuals. if we can, we want to do that because it is valuable for us. any actions taken in concert with the yemeni government are done in terms of any types of strikes we might engage there with them, are done only because we do not have the ability to bring those individuals into custody. >> thank you. my time is up. senator chambliss? >> thanks, madam chair. in 2002 what was your knowledge of interrogation videotapes about zebeda, and did you see any information about a review of them in 2002? >> i do not have their recollection of that, senator. >> of the tapes or that request? >> at the time in 2002, i did not know what my involvement or knowledge was at the time. i believe i was aware of the briefings being taped. >> it should be no surprise that many members have been dissatisfied with the administration's cooperation on the benghazi inquiries. senator graham asked director clapper if he was aware of the attacks in

mr. awlaki, have been in touch with individuals. i am not prepared to address the specifics of these, but suffice it to say -- >> shias on who pled guilty to the 2010 times square car bombing attempt tell interrogators in 2010 that he was inspired by awlaki? >> i believe that is correct, yes. >> last october, al-awlaki's, did he have a direct role in supervising and directing the failed attempt to bring down two u.s. cargo aircraft by detonating explosives concealed inside two packages? as a matter of fact, inside a computer printer cartridge. >> mr. al-awlaki's was involved in overseeing the number of these activities, yes. >> jeremy scahill, continue. >> what you're seeing there, first of all, let's remember the obama administration never sought an indictment against anwar awlaki that we know of. he was never charged with a crime that we know of. and he was executed out of orders from the president of the nine states is a timber 2011. the issue is not to anwar awlaki was, but the issue is the constitution, due process. what we saw

mr. awlaki. if congress does, we as agreed. think this guy is exercising his first amendment rights, the executive to take that into account. after, if the executive rent has targeted americans, i do not see why the executive cannot report that to congress. that is the check and balance. we are talking about an armed conflict situation. tying the president hands before or after the judicial review if an armed conflict decision as commander-in-chief, it is a serious problem. >> prospective if possible and retrospective if necessary. i yield to the gentleman from regina. >> -- from virginia. >> the determination has to be made that the target is a senior operational reader of al qaeda, imminent threat, capture not feasible, consistent with laws of war. does the white paper talk about the standard that is used whether it is beyond a reasonable doubt or moral certainty preponderance of the evidence or there is a standard not clearly erroneous? where is the standard? >> i do not think the white paper goes out of its way to say. he c

mr. awlaki is by not an american citizen by where anyone in america would be proud? >> he was part of al qaeda and it was his determination to kill americans on behalf of al qaeda. >> thank you. is it true that in the last four years the fbi has arrested 100 people, either planning, conspiring, or trying to commit a terrorist attack on this nation? >> yes, they have arrested a lot of people. >> that is because of good, sound intelligence. i think what people forget is that they will kill us if they can and it is extraordinarily difficult if you cannot get into where they were hiding. would it have been possible to awlakirested hav mr. where he was in the yemen? >> we work very closely with yemenis to see if we can arrest in vigils. if we can, we want to do that because it is valuable for us. any actions taken in concert with the yemeni government are done in terms of any types of strikes we might engage there with them, are done only because we do not have the ability to bring those individuals into custody. >> thank you. my time is up. senator chambliss? >> thanks,

mr. al-awlaki where he was in the yemen? >> we work very closely with yemenis to see if we can arrest individuals. if we can, we want to do that because it is valuable for us. any actions taken in concert with the yemeni government are done in terms of any types of strikes we might engage there with them, are done only because we do not have the ability to bring those individuals into custody. >> thank you. my time is up. senator chambliss? >> thanks, madam chair. in 2002 what was your knowledge of interrogation videotapes about zebeda, and did you see any information about a review of them in 2002? >> i do not have their recollection of that, senator. >> of the tapes or that request? >> at the time in 2002, i did not know what my involvement or knowledge was at the time. i believe i was aware of the briefings being taped. >> it should be no surprise that many members have been dissatisfied with the administration's cooperation on the benghazi inquiries. senator graham asked director clapper if he was aware of the attacks in

mr. awlaki's name got put on the list in 2010. branches, congress to step in and set up some kind of structure and then hopefully it would be a judicial-type structure on, and we're just saying that we don't have enough confidence that they're always the right decisions and we would like another check on them. the questions may be answered incorrectly and we should have killed people that would have been killed and the structure would give us some confidence that it's being done right. >> thanks so much for the reality check this afternoon. >> one of the more powerful women in politics caught snoozing on the job. this was no accidental nap. a new trend in workplace productivity. >> also eric kabtor with lawmakers changing their tune in immigration policy this week, but what does the new chairman of the house immigration subcommittee think? we'll ask the congressman straight up when he joins us live. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. all your important legal

mr. awlaki and what he had been doing. >> i am not going to talk about any particular operation or responsibility for anything whenever. >> that is the problem. when people hear american citizens, they think somebody who is an upstanding, and this man was not standing by a long shot. maybe you cannot discuss it here, but i have read enough to know that he was a real problem. >> before he died he was intimately involved in activities that were designed to kill innocent men, women, and children, and mostly americans. he was not just a propagandist. he was in fact part of the operational effort that is known as al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and had responsibilities in that regard. >> can i ask some questions about him? did he have a connection to abdulmuttalab who intended to explode a device over detroit? >> yes, he did. >> could you tell us what connection it was? >> i would prefer not to at >> i would prefer not to at this time.

mr. al-awlaki where he was in the yemen? >> we work very closely with yemenis to see if we can arrest individuals. if we can, we want to do that because it is valuable for us. any actions taken in concert with the yemeni government are done in terms of any types of strikes we might engage there with them, are done only because we do not have the ability to bring those individuals into custody. >> thank you. my time is up. senator chambliss? >> thanks, madam chair. in 2002 what was your knowledge of interrogation videotapes about zebeda, and did you see any information about a review of them in 2002? >> i do not have their recollection of that, senator. >> of the tapes or that request? >> at the time in 2002, i did not know what my involvement or knowledge was at the time. i believe i was aware of the briefings being taped. >> it should be no surprise that many members have been dissatisfied with the administration's cooperation on the benghazi inquiries. senator graham asked director clapper if he was aware of the attacks in

. >> ifill: we should mention that even though anwar al-awlaki's name is not mentioned in this memo, mr. waxman, there is an assumption that this is a kind of an after-the-fact justification. that it speaks clearly to the situation she just referred to, the three americans who had been killed in 2011. is that something that we should be concerned about? >> well, let me say, i -- we should be concerned about the idea of the government being able to use lethal force against citizens but we should also be concerned about the idea that terrorists -- terrorist leaders and plotters can plan attacks on the united states and the president would be powerless to take military action against them. we need to try to strike a balance between those two things. now, to ms. shamsi's concerns about the conduct of these operations in yemen, you know, i wish it were true that al qaeda and its operations were contained to places like afghanistan but everything that i've read and know about al qaeda suggest that many of its activities have been waged from territory in yemen. >> ifill: i'm sorry, you had one

. >> ifill: we should mention that even though anwar al-awlaki's name is not mentioned in this memo mr. waxman, there is an assumption that this is a kind of an after-the-fact justification. that it speaks clearly to the situation she just referred to, the three americans who had been killed in 2011. is that something that we should be concerned about? >> well let me say i -- we should be concerned about the idea of the government being able to use lethal force against citizens but we should also be concerned about the idea that terrorists -- terrorist leaders and plotters can plan attacks on the united states and the president would be powerless to take military action against them. we need to try to strike a balance between those two things. now to ms. shamsi's concerns about the conduct of these operations in yemen you know i wish it were true that al qaeda and its operations were contained to places like afghanistan but everything that i've read and know about al qaeda suggest that many of its activities have been waged from territory in yemen. >> ifill: i'm sorry you had one final

awlaki. so there is a classified setting that the committee will have with mr. brennan next week and i certainly think that they will continue to lean on the white house to provide more documents. they provided one. but i think as ron wyden said, that's a start but he's looking for more. >> john: given the popularity of the drone war with most americans, do you think the testimony on the issue today helped him or hurt him? >> i think the white house is probably very satisfied with the hearing today. certainly if you compare what john brennan went through today and the reaction from senators in both parties to what happened last week with chuck hagel and his nomination hearing to be secretary of defense you know, brennan claim through i think as a strong, credible witness. it took three hours for the committee to get through issues regarding the loc memos eit the enhanced interrogation techniques and what it meant to the bin laden raid. and other things to get to what i think is really what most people want to hear which is how do you feel -- what's the nature of

awlaki in 2011 in yemen. >>> the white house confirms the president will go to middle east next month to israel, west bank and jordan. it will be the first time for mrisit israel since he took office. he will meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the trip will focus on the resumption of talks between israel and the palestinians. u.s. ambassador dan shapiro says the president will bring an urgent peace-making agenda with him. >>> and we -- >> we may see some new changes today on a ban on gay members in the boy scouts of america. scout leaders may vote today on whether to change the policy. a new proposal would allow individual scout troops to decide how they want to address the issue. some religious leaders criticized the possible change. the founder for scouts for equality says it's time to ban discrimination. >> they are entitled to continue that policy if they choose to. and if they don't, they are going to lose the heart and soul of their membership. >> this is about, you know, them trying to advance an agenda of promoting a specific way of understanding the world at the expense of people all over the country. >> the boy scouts of america

mr. obama's traditional support others the left. >> it's a program that used very minimally by president bush. now there are over 3,000 civilians who have been killed in this program. >> on brennan's watch, anwar al-awlaki was the first american successfully targeted for death in september 2011. two weeks later his son was killed in a drone strike. >> i think it's fair to say, far fewer civilians lose their lives in an effort to go after senior leadership and al-qaeda along the lines we are discussing as opposed to an effort to invade a country with hundreds of thousands of troops and take cities and towns. >> reporter: the draft memorandum mem oh targeting killing of americans is described as overly simplistic. >> before they decided to take an extraordinary action and essentially unilaterally execute an american says they wanted legal cover. >> reporter: senator ron widen is going to pull out all the stops to justify killing americans without judicial review. >> what i can say this president and this administration will continue to work with congress. >> reporter: another line of questioning in the confirmation will focus on 2007 statement that the controversial c.i.a. program which included the water