mr. pratt, and thank you for letting me beyond the "washington journal." on the subject of the atf, i know that the second amendment is in the constitution. it is our bill of rights. what about the constitutionality of the atf? speaking of the fast and furious program, and american citizens to take the atf serious seeing what we're left with with holder and president barack obama? guest: he makes a very good point. it is stunning that we have made the federal government complicity in mass murder. some 400 + mexican nationals, a couple of our own federal agents have been murdered by guns that were supplied to criminals through the fast and furious program. intentionally allowed to get into the hands of criminals. and to the federal government then turned around and say that they're going to oversee whether or not the rest of us are behaving properly with firearms, that is a little hard to see the logic to that. host: when did you first get interested in the issue of guns, gun ownership, gun-cont

mr. pratt, what is the gun owners of america association and how are you different from the nra? guest: gun owners has been lobbying congress for more than 30 years. the nra was set up to help up the gum -- help the federal correct help people shoot better. union soldiers were not good shots, and after the war between the states, the nra was founded to overcome that difficulty. gun owners of america's was founded in the 1970's of the last century to oppose what the government was doing as it is increasingly got itself involved in gun control issues. one set up to help the - opposent, the other two what the government was doing. we pursue the same objectives, the spread of gun control at the federal level, and at gun owners of america and, we think shall not be infringed is not fit their well with gun control legislation at all. host: some recent proposals, and this is from the white house website, including gun-control pro-gun proposals, requiring background checks for all gun sales, a new ban

host: mr. pratt. guest: that's a very good point. there's a lack of trust by those that typically are involved in trying to get rid of guns, at least out of the hands of the average citizen. they think that guns only belong in the hands of the government. well, the country was founded on a very different philosophy that guns belong in the hands of the average person. and when the british crown embargoed the importation of ammunition into the colonies, that was just one more evidence to the colonists that they were getting close to cutting the chord with mother britain. host: finally for you, mr. pratt, gary dan tweets in, will 3-d printers make gun laws obsolete? they are referring to an article in "the washington post," front-page article about people making guns or components of guns on their 3-d printers. guest: well, if you make a gun with a 3-d printer, from what i read, you might be able to fire it once. and then all you got is a mess of paper. possibly the 3-d printed magazine, the multiple-round magazine, might be more feasib

mr. pratt, we were talking to allen earlier about his new study on the a.t.f. would you support changing the rule when it comes to getting rid of the information from these background within 24 hours? guest: we think that former congressman had it right and the congress agreed with him in requiring that the government destroy the record of a background check. if they do not, we're not sure if they do inspite of his efforts, then the government's able to build a registration list of who has guns and what guns they have. registration lists are not a crime-fighting tool. when the background check begun a study was published in the early part of this century, in the "journal of medical association" which is an arm of gun owners and it found that the background checks did not have any impact on lowering crime. but we're concerned that the background check does give the government an opportunity to keep that information and that is something that was used to confiscate guns in new york a few decades

mr. dell pratt, thank you for being with us.ock over the past 12 months, what does it need to do to move higher? >> yes, they need to find growth markets where they can show they can grow faster than the market that we think is growing somewhere in the 6% growth range between now and the 2016 timeframe. this is a logical place to go. in their sweet spot of enterprise. as the last guest mentioned, companies are drowning in data and they need smart companies to help them figure out how to maybe the right decisions. >> has watson helped them? is watson too young, too juvenile, to make a difference? >> at this point, it is really not about watson. it is about the technology inside of watson. and what they can do is ultimately cascade that technology into more affordable systems. it is interesting to note that we believe that by the 27 timeframe, about a quarter of the fortune 500 will use question and answer watson like technology to make better decisions. >> mr. dell prete, thank you for being with us. we appreciate your time. >> t

pratt street. it will be open at 5:00 on monday morning. beyonce will hold two concerts as part of the mrs.ter show. and the tickets for the performance sold out in less than a minute. so the superstar has added another one. the ticket goes on sale at 10 a.m. >>> breaking news. can you train to survive the zombie apock himself. there will be the survival camp. it is a boot camp style class showing to you run, jump and strike, whatever is out there for no tomorrow. we're fighting the undead here. >> and you saw some there. >> you know. >> the zoomy thing is so annoying to me that would be dun. it will be a great work out. >> that's the point of it. >> it is seeing people and getting people involved. but you can throw a zombie into things. >> it is a good time to do it inside, right. >> it will be cold this morning. the temperature at 53 degrees. it will not be as cold as it could be. 53. look at bel air. we'll have cloud cover there. and more of the same. we have some blue skies but we had the clouds lurking as well. that's the scenario as we go through the rest of the day. temperature wise,