. >> the scripture just flowed out of his mouth. >> peter says for those who believe not the word. >>e seemed to know so many things and knew how to explain them. >> take it isaiah referring to messiah. >> my children learned how to swim in this pool. >> sheila martin came to the compound in 1985. her husband, wayne, was a harvard law graduate. they brought their six children. >> i thought at first it's just going to be a sunny day. just walk into the kingdom one day and bring my family and we'll live forever through eternity believing in the scriptures and doing the things that god wanted. >> when it comes to religious matters, you're always learning. >> clive doyle came to waco on his way to australia to israel. he ultimately stayed to study scripture with david koresh. >> as his message developed, we came to see him as more than just a prophet. >> a messiah. >> right. manifestation of god in the flesh. >> koresh added a twist to his message in 1989 declaring only he could have sex. all the other branch davidian men would be celibate, even married men. koresh, however, could have mu

here in bethesda, which means house of mercy, little girls recite scripture with a smile.hat smile also hides the pain as they share their horrible stories of abuse. >> shavani remembers her dad pouring kerosene on her mom and burning her to death. 8-year-old hanu recalls her mom being drunk and throwing her out of the house. their stories are too familiar in a country where parents often prefer having baby boys. >> that just tore my heart apart. i just stood there and cried and cried. and i lord was telling me, well, who is going to take care of them? so for the first time ever in my life, i opened my mouth and said, i'll take care of them. >> reporter: he now has 14 orphanages, and he has partnered with cbn's "orphans' promise." big things often start small, and the pastor's orphanage did just that. the ministry was simply renting out two rooms inside this building. it now has two buildings, one for the orphanage and the other for a bible school. this is one of the ministry's 16 bible colleges. there are also six christian schools. we visited a primary school. and a high

he surely found solace in scripture. he could acknowledge his own doubts and he was humbled in the face of the lord. that i think allowed him to be a better leader. it's what allowed him in what may be one of the greatest speeches ever written in a second inaugural to describe the union and confederate soldier, both reading the sable bible and prayed to the same god, but the prayers of both could not be answered. that of neither has been answered fully. the almighty has his own purposes. and in lincoln's eyes, the power of faith was humbling. allowing us to embrace our limits in knowing god's will as a consequence that he was able to see god in those who vehemently opposed him. today the divisions in this country are thankfully not as deep or destructive as when lincoln led, but they are real. the differences in how we hope to move our nation forward are less pronounced than when king marched, but they do exist. as we debate what is right and what is just and what is the surest way to create a more hopeful for our childr

the question is are we on the right side of what the scripture would require of christians to live out. >> reporter: that right side is on display at focus on the family's colorado springs campus, which includes a multimillion dollar visitor center. in it, messages about the importance of faith and conservative family values take center stage. however, even as christian evangelicals continue to organize in this beautiful corner of colorado to fulfill their vision of america, some within these groups are starting to reassess their activism. they wonder just how deeply they should be involved in american politics and whether they should start building bridges to people who don't agree with them. >> you have been welcomed into the family of god. >> reporter: and who's leading this rethink in colorado springs' conservative christian community? maybe surprisingly, it's focus on the family. do you consider yourself a culture warrior? >> no, i really don't. i don't think the label is a healthy one. and i think often times in the christian conservative community, we are not expressing love of

are just interpreting the scriptures on the screen? >> listen, bringing the bible to the screen came with a huge responsibility and one that we took very seriously. we had a great team of and theologians helping us making sure that we told these stories accurately. and truthfully. i have been a believer my whole life and that was very very important to us. something else that we wanted to do was to make it really really cool. you know, we have teenagers at home and hard to get them radio-to-read anything and one of the goals here was to get this generation interested and excited about scripture. i think we have been able to achieve that. >> bill: when you say you are a believer, do you believe in the bible literally? do you believe that adam and eve were out there and the snake and the apple and all of that business? >> i do indeed. i believe the truth of the bible. that's what i was taught. it's been a wonderful, wonderful faith for me my whole life. i grew up in ireland. earliest memory is my father reading the bible to me sitting on

they're scripture come alive. they're lovely things in themselves and i want to tell us this, there are some stuff you will read there you never thought the catholic would say. it's incredible. >> do you have a blog or anything? do you ever think about doing that? >> no. >> you know you're not a good typist. we got to go. you've been wonderful. thanks for being here. we'll talk more about vatican ii if we live long enough, vatican iii. thanks for being with us on "mosaic." join us again. yes! announcer: there's a new team worth rooting for. watson: isn't that evidence? yeah, well, i will give it back when i am finished. there's nothing more hazardous to my health than boredom. what is wrong with you? you hacked my e-mail? took me seven tries to deduce a password. i noticed something in there. flexing our deductive muscles, are we? i could burst with pride. . >>> hi, ern. welcome to bay sunday. we've got a terrific show today. a pulitzer prize-wivening author with a laughing out loud new book. we got three local no

so there, the three scriptures became prominent there - that is the upanishads, the brahma sutras, and the bhagavad gita, although they all were... generally came from the vedas. and in there, first we find some [inaudible], especially natural powers, like the sun and the moon and the waters and all that. later on, or very soon, we find there are other things - not just the externals - it is the interlinked spirit everywhere. then afterwards, slowly developed the philosophical side, and then the inquiry, and meditation. it is not just watch it, external watch it - it is a philosophical inquiry and meditation, and direct experience of the truths they were inquiring about. and later on, in the next period, is the medieval period, where the commentators came. they were the top-ranking scholars, with great intellectual acumen and spiritual insight, and they were commonplace in these scriptures. and side-by-side developed the, what we call mysticism, or experience of god as love - love and light - whom we call - the word is [inaudible]. and all over india, in this period, from eighth centur

three teams of three contestants answered questions based on scripture. >> jesus paid the temple taxat? matt? >> a fish. >> if it feels a little bit like are you smarter than a sunday school teacher there's jeff foxworth who was reluctant to get involved at first. >> i said i have to get away to think about it. here's what i thought, i didn't want to be in line in hell thinking it was the game show, right? it was the game show. foxworthy has sold more comedy records than anyone ever, written 11 books and hosted are you smarter than a fifth grader and is one of the stars of the blue collar comedy tour, he's added more color to our language. >> if your working television sits on top of a not working tfr of it, you might be a red neck. >> i was on homework for a show like this? >> you know the biggest challenge for me being a southern guy, if you could see my cards that i hold, most of them are phonetic pronunciations of these old testament names which apparently i've been saying wrong for decades. >> foxworthy, grew up a baptist and now attends a non-denominational evangelical church n

and we know that he surely found solace in scripture. that he could acknowledge his own doubts, that he was humbled in the face of the lord. and that i think allowed him to become a better leader. it's what allowed him in what may be one of the greatest speeches ever written in his second inaugural to describe the union and confederate soldiers alike, both reading the same bible, both prayed to the same god but the prayers of both could not be answered. that neither answered fully. the almighty has his own purposes. into lincoln's eyes the power of faith was humbling, allowing us to embrace our limits in knowing god's will, and as a consequence, that he was able to see god in those who vehemently oppose him. today, the divisions in this country are thankfully not as deep or as instructive as one link in the lead, but they are real or the differences in how we hoped to move our nation forward are less pronounced than when dr. king marched, but they do exist. and as we debate what is right and what is just, what is the surest way to create

she will give a reading from the holy scriptures.t to her as california representative at janice hahn. [applause] next year she will be standing in my place here. then have adel and mrs. jonathan greener. he is the u.s. chief of naval operations, which puts him in charge of about 300,000 sailors, 300 ships, and a 3500 aircraft. he will offer a prayer for our national leaders. [applause] next we have the spouse of my cochair, mary sessions. [applause] please join me in welcoming the pension -- the passionate, principled, and principled first lady of the united states, first lady michelle obama. [applause] continuing down the table, we have our friend and former colleague, the good vice- president of the united states, joe biden. [applause] on the other side of our speaker is my colleague and friend chuck schumer. he is the cry of -- the pride of ps 197 in brooklyn. he has been a member of the senate for over 30 years scripps -- years. [applause] next to him as a former colleague of ours, the u.s. secretary of the interior, ken salazar

i often search for scripture to figure out how i can be a better man, as well as a better president. >> the national prayer breakfast has been held every year since 1953. >>> president obama will join house democrats at their winter retreat in virginia today to promote his second term agenda. that meeting will take place at the landsdown resort in leesburg. the president is scheduled to be there this afternoon. >>> right now, parts of the midwest are dealing were a snowstorm that's quickly makes its way east. this is downtown chicago on mission avenue in the past hour. snow with wintry mix are causing delays at chicago's o'hare airport by as much as two hours. take a look at our skies, gray here locally. let's see our sky. there it is. we could get that wintry mix joining us overnight. storm 4 meteorologist tom kierein joins us. tom? >> good morning. we've had that all morning long. and temperatures have not warmed up much. we're above freezing. there's a dampness to the air. 37 at reagan national. we're in the mid-30s around the metro area. arlington, fairfax, prince georges county.

we know that in scripture dr. king down strength. in the bible he found conviction. in the words of god he found a truth about the dignity of man that he never relinquished. we know lincoln had such moments as well. to see this country torn apart, to see his fellow citizens waging a ferocious war that pitted brother against brother, family against family, that was as heavy a burden as any president will have to bear. we know lincoln met with troops and visited the wounded and honored the dead and a tall mountain day after day and week after week, and you can see in the lines of his face the told that the war-- the toll that the war cost him. but he did not break, eason and he buried the blood of some, even as he struggled to overcome a melancholic, despair, grief. he did not break. we know that he surely found solace in scripture, that he could acknowledge his own doubts, that he was humbled in the fifth of the lord -- in the faith of the loard. that allowed him to become a better leader, and allow him to become to describe union and confederate soldier alike reading

[laughter] >> stephen: kai here, of course, is quoting scripture.atthew 24:5, which reads: "for many will come in my name, claiming, 'i am the christ,' and will deceive many. then one will be like, 'bro, if you're (bleep) jesus christ, i'll be the anti-christ, man, (bleep) that (bleep).'" [cheers and applause] so, nation, i encourage you to pick up axe-wielding homeless hitchhikers whenever you see them. [laughter] i just wish there was something more we could do to thank this hitchhiker. >> if anybody's watching this somewhere and they've got a mini-mal they could lend a guy with a wet suit, i'd love to test out mavericks. so if you've got a mini-mal and a wetsuit, get in touch with him. his name is kai. he's somewhere in california. and he has a hatchet. [laughter] we'll be right back. [cheers and applause]éxéx [cheers and applause] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you very much. [cheers and applause] my guest is the star of such movies as "the sound of music" and "mary poppins." great, another advocate for the nanny state. [laughter]

jewish scripture. what's the jewish scripture called? the torah. i don't know. oh, right. okay.panese for tiger. oh, right. okay. it's a very complex pun. right. now, this is japanese. did you know that? i wasn't sure. whether it was chinese or japanese? yeah, we just thought it was chinese. the chinese do fantastic needlework but for naturalism the japanese are strengths ahead. the tiger is actually not indigenous to japan. the first tigers came over in the 1870s i think. but they've always known about tigers because one of their 12 zodiac signs, which they inherited from the chinese where there are tigers. so they got this beast which as far as they were concerned was kind of mythical but existed. where did this one come from? my husband. he bought it at an action in jersey back in 1991. okay. so it's not a particularly long provenance as far as you're concerned. because he liked it? yes. he loved it. yeah. yeah. and you love it, too? i love it, too. he bought because i like tigers as well, so... this is just wonderful. it is beautiful. this says here tanaka in seal characters

. >> oh, my -- i got up in church yesterday to read the scripture, and he was trembling. i was.a. yes. it was fun. the time that i sang the national anthem, ten years later i was at my friend david friedman's partner shawn's church. i said, boy, has my career done well. i went from the super bowl ten years ago to a unity church that's on top of a ford dealership. >> but we should point out that the last time the san francisco 49ers won the super bowl -- >> what's the one that i did sing? >> you sang the anthem. >> that is right. >> that's a little bit of history. trivia. >> you know, you know. the touching moment came as the 26 kids from the chorus of the sandy hook elementary school came to the stage with jennifer hudson and sang. >> beautiful. >> "god bless america". ♪ >> "america the beautiful." it was so beautiful. >> i often enjoyed this song even more than the anthem. it's just so profoundly personal. >> you're right. you can tell how it was touching the players. i mean, right before a game to feel that kind of a wash of emotion was something. that was beautiful. that was

the scriptures on the balloons are meant to encourage them. >> george: the ernest prayers begin heret this undisclosed location in seoul. every week since 1991, this man, along with a handful of another believers, has prepared each balloon into the flight into north korea. >> this is my way of helping to get the gospel back to my countrymen. >> george: the process is almost done. they're just putting on the final touches. they have a hole in here that they fill helium in, put a tape around it, and off it goes into the skies of north korea. >> the helium will leak out of the balloon and eventually fall to the ground. and when someone picks it up, they'll be able to read all 16 chapters of the book of mark. >> george: peter used boats in the past with other groups to launch balloon offensoffensives to the sea. they contain a small radio, the bible, and other christian literature. in addition to the balloon operation, peter's group organizes a weekly radio broadcast recorded in seoul and transmitted over short wave frequencies into north korea. >> it brings it like a regular church serv

[choir singing] the lyrics of gospel music being scripturally based do give a message of hope. has its power from also the musical accompaniment. there is a beat. there is a cadence--a rhythm. so the music must connect with people's interior. ♪ if you get there before i do, ♪ ♪ the angels up in heaven done signed my name. ♪ (woman) when you walk into a service, you may feel down, you may feel troubled, you may be distraught. ♪ the angels up in heaven done signed my name. ♪ but then the music begins, and it's soothing, and it's uplifting, and then you begin to feel you have strength. ♪ i know i've been saved. you know you've come home. ♪ i know i've been saved. ♪ the angels up in heaven done signed my name. ♪ i'm a kid of the '60s, so for me, i came to this gospel music not through the church, but really through the movement. i mean, whenever we were in demonstrations, or i'd see demonstrations, there was always music being played. ♪ we shall overcome. (narrator) music has the power to unite people in common cause. it is often able to convey a political message in stronger and m

king's magnificent formula of = full and equal votes, one foot in the scriptures and one foot in the constitution and the next thing you know people are turning against the spiritual base of democracy. we misremembered the civil war for a century. i was growing up in atlanta, my textbooks said the civil war had nothing to do with slavery and we got a lot of sentimental gone with the wind and to this day there are text books in history that referred to the political movement that overthrew the reconstruction governments after the civil war and restored white supremacy in the south and paved the way for segregation, refer to -- textbooks refer to that as the redeemers. the redeemers redeemed the south. the religious word that in reality was accomplished by terror. terrorism as much as the terrorism that plagues the world we are so attuned to when it is not among us. so it turned, race has the power of turning our whole sense of respect and upside-down. that is a terrible thing. it turns politics upside down. one of the chapters, i put two jeb this together about 1964. in 1964 you had t

oh, the scripture says "of dust thou art made," and the first thing in life is to fill one's belly. what's this? onions, that won't get me far. i have to be cunning and lay some snares. there's a river here, so i won't go thirsty. when i die, as die i must, i'll crawl under a tree blown down by the wind and cover myself with leaves like a bear and carve on the bark in big bold letters: here lies peer gynt, a decent chap, emperor of all the beasts of the forests. emperor, you old fraud, you're no emperor. you're just an onion. well, now, little peer, i'm going to peel you. and you won't escape by weeping or praying. the outermost layer is withered and torn. now, that's a shipwrecked man on the upturned keel. here, mean and thin is the passenger. you still taste a little of old peer gynt. inside back is the digger of gold. its juice is gone if ever it had any. his next layer is shaped like a crown. no, thank you. throw that away, no questions asked. this layer now that curl so gently is the sybarite, living for pleasure and ease. this next one looks sick and streaked with black. it co

the effort resulted in some strange sights like this one -- a muslim imam preaching on christian scripture at the sunday morning service to a united church of christ congregation. >> if we can make this kind of thing happen in grand rapids, then i think that can be a model for it happening in other communities and really a model for the nation. >> reporter: grand rapids has become a microcosm of global religious diversity. its interfaith project is unique because it includes not only churches and religious organizations, but a public university, the art museum, the community theater, even the local newspaper. "the grand rapids press" publishes weekly columns on interfaith understanding. the museum is exhibiting salvador dali's prints of "the 12 tribes of israel." and the symphony has hosted a number of events, like this performance of a stephen paulus oratorio commemorating the holocaust. leaders of the effort took pains to reassure religiously conservative groups that delving into other religions doesn't risk diluting any one religion's set of beliefs. >> one concept that i think is impor

core premises of equal soles and equal votes to the core of the constitution and the core of the scriptures, it would liberate, and psychologically, economically, and so many other ways so the question that i want to pose to you is the same question that drove me to say let's -- the second reason beyond the teachers, let's do this, try to make it salient, to get people to address the question of why is there such a tremendous disconnect between the broad liberation that's been -- that losed across the land at relatively low cost historically. people suffered, there were many martyrs, and there was a lot of psychic damage, but for the amount of social changed produced, it was remarkably civilized. lots and lots of other people, and, yet, in our public discourse today, we still think of public interchange, we have a largely cynical view, the dominant idea in politics in 50 years is government is bad, at least directed towards the purposes of the civil rights movement. if i'm right that we're that out of phase, and my illustration for it -- i'll give you two illustrations why i think it's so p

[laughter] she will give a reading from the holy scriptures.r is representative janice hahn, one of two co-chairs of the house prayer breakfast group. [applause] and next year she'll be standing in my place here. then we have admiral and mrs. jonathan greenert. he is the u.s. chief of naval operation which puts him in charge of about 300,000 sailors, 300 ships and 3,500 aircraft. he will offer a prayer for our national leaders. [applause] next, we have the spouse of my co-chair, mary sessions. [applause] and please join me in welcoming the passionate, principled and inspirational first lady of the united states, michelle obama. [applause] continuing down the table, we have our friend and former colleague, the good vice president of the united states, joe biden. [applause] on the other side of our speaker, is my colleague and friend, chuck schumer. he's the pride of ps-197 in brooklyn, new york, and a dedicated member of congress for, amazingly, 30 years, and a key member of the democratic leadership. [applause] chuck will be offering a reading

he said he gets up in the morning, says a brief prayer and spends some time in scripture and devotionelical tones at the time you look at it in this event that, yes, it's not supposed to be a political event, but it was in an election year where a number of normally, i would say evangelical republican supporters had questions about mitt romney and you saw president obama maybe able to seize this moment, so i think sometimes it serves a political opportunity. sometimes it serves this sort of, serves as an opportunity for the president to reach out, and certainly at a time right now when he's dealing with some very divisive issues. >> they're doing a prayer, brianna for national leader, i want to dip into it. >> -- who have served this great nation, your world tells us of king david whose willingness to place his faith in you during difficult times serves as an example for us all. like david, there are many in this nation who have answered the call to serve, both in and out of uniform. lord, we are thankful for their dedication, their passion, their perseverance, and for the families th

jesus was not trying to subvert the jewish law - i think, as barbara said, he came to fulfill it, as scripture says. but in that fulfilling, he's reinterpreting identity, reinterpreting relationship, and he's seeking. he's a strong believer. look at matthew, he knows his tora, backwards and forwards. but he's seeking, and in that seeking - well, somebody said it; i forget who it was, the great comment in the last class, "you better bet careful about seeking; you might actually find." then look out, you may suffer a very serious result, which of course jesus did - punishment by the romans. good point. yeah, sure. >> we talked about the number of religions in the world and all the jews and the christians and the different groups, but in a way, because i think most of us are seekers, i think that each person has their own religion, and it's just a little different. there's not such a thing as - you're part of a bigger group, but you still have your own little religion; it's not always the same as the whole group, the way i see it. >> again, i'm talking as an anthropologist here out in the field,

nothing to do with the churches scripture but capacious judgment given to the church all of that falls under the new jurisdiction of religious the literature. >> but before he disappeared indicated publicly they had spent $1 million investigating the ira's before that was given. who follows up on that in the structure? >> first of all, when you have a situation like that, it is the ideal place for the investigative reporter to go in and. i had many of the same questions about scientology. the windows need to reopen and progress have tried as much as i can i got a little cooperation from the churches self but awareness in the public and demand public officials we know more about it are called for >> have you personally been intimidated by scientology? i heard 20 years ago a time reporter that wrote a story in had to change his name because his life became intolerable and they prevented or if they prevented the publication of your book in england. talk about people disappearing and held against there will wear is the justice department or another branch looking into that? >> remind me if

inspiration and half of doctor king's magnificent formula of equal service and equal votes. 1 foot in the scriptures and 1 foot in the constitution. the next thing you know. people are turning against the spiritual base of democracy. when i grow, the textbooks of the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. we have a lot of sentimental on with gone with the wind, and to this day, there are textbooks in history that refer to the political movement that oversaw the reconstruction governments and the supremacy in the south and pave the way for segregation, the textbooks refer to that movement as the redeemers. saying that redeemed this by terrorism, when it is not among us. so it hasn't the ability to turn our perception upside down. it can also turn our politics upside down. i put two chapters together in about 1964. it had a democratic convention and the republican convention. the republicans were the party of lincoln. meeting in san francisco. they normally had over 20% of their delegates they only have 13 delegates, he kicked them all out. barry goldwater met with two of them and announced that he

now to be fair to the president he did quote scripture a lot.talked about how those who lead a nation have a greater obligation to be humble. jon? jon: i believe he said in the past he doesn't watch cable news. just, we ought to get our brain room to check that out. >> reporter: we should, yes. jon: lauren green in washington for us. thank you. >> reporter: thank you very much. jenna: researchers are predicting a major increase in the number of alzheimer's cases. we know how many american families are affected by this. we'll look at the number and what a spike could mean for cost of health care coming up. jenna: right now some brand new information in a cold case out of california. the nearly three decades old disappearance of a little boy. patti ann brown is live at the breaking news desk with more. >> jenna, it was almost 30 years ago when 10-year-old kevin collins disappeared after school. his case went cold. investigators now say they have new leads. he was a student at st. agnus in the haight-ashbury district of san francisco. at the time t

some of these people who are pastors have even told their congregation to go to the bible and read scripturesed to jesus and immigration. >> it's gone beyond just the people behind the pulpit. the pastors are taking it to the pews and they have a 40-day prayer where they are asking the parishioners to read about the immigrant as part of the bible. it's called i'm a strangerer. there is a definite education curve and they focus on states like arizona, california, colorado that could give cover to members who would potentially be nervous about-facing an up tick against them if they support immigration reform. >> it's interesting because the bible hasn't changed for a very, very long time. these are people saying go to the bible as a difference point on how to treat people who are in this country illegally. do they feel that the voices would be drowned out in the last election in the last primary? why do they feel the courage now. the bible has not changed. >> i focus on the family. one group that never waded into this before. they focus on gay marriage and family and those issues. they said to

they have nothing to do with the church of scripture, but according to the irs is capacious judgment given to the church. all of that falls under the jurisdiction of religious literature. >> before he disappeared, indicated publicly they had spent $1 instigating the irs before that was given. who follows up on some unlike that? >> you know, i think first of all when you have a situation like that, it's an ideal place for an investigative reporter to go when in ca have many of the same questions that everybody has about scientology. i think the windows need to be opened and i've tried is much as i possibly can to crack them open. i got very little cooperation from the church's outcome of that awareness of the public and in its public officials that we know more about it are called for. emily, please. >> have you personally been in to the data by scientology? this may be apocryphal you may know. hired 15,, 20 years ago come a time reporter had to change its name because his life became so intolerable. i know they presented the publication of your book in and grab. the second part of my

the choices we make or don't make for now we see through a gla glass, the scripture says.ut of enertia or fear or simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog. accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable, like the bus driver but also like the passengers on the bus. we see the way things are, children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness. and we make excuses for inaction. and we say to ourselves, it not my responsibility. there's nothing i can do. rosa parks tells us there's always something we can do. she tells us that we all have responsibilities to ourselves and to one another. she reminds us that this is how change happens. not mainly through the exploits of the famous and the powerful, but through the countless acts of often anonymous courage and kindness and fellow responsibility that continually s stubbornly, what is possible. rosa parks' singular act of disobedience launched a movement. the tired feet of those who walked the dusty road

and because it went to the core premise of equal souls to the core of the constitution accord the scriptures, it was a great race. psychologically, economically and in so many other ways. so the question i want to pose to you is the same question that drove me to say, the circuit reason beyond the teachers to try to make a salient to get people to address the question of why is there such a tremendous disconnect between the broad liberation across the land a relatively low cost historically. there are many markers and a lot of violent and a lot of psychic damage, but for the amount of social change produced, it was remarkably civilized. it blesses lots and lots of other people and yet in our public discourse today, we still think of public interchange. we have a largely cynical view. the dominant idea in politics in these 50 years has been the government is bad, at least one direct it towards the purposes of the civil rights movement. so if i am right that we are at that out my illustration -- the db2 illustrations for why you think it is so pervasive. number one, george wallace, the same ma