when you make it into that diluted bitumin, that sticky substance, it becomes this.from there to here, it becomes something like oil and that becomes refined into gasoline or home heating oil. ben jones, you have referred to the administration's approval of this, if it comes, as jabbing a dirty needle of a pipeline into america. you've likened it to drug addiction. you've said this will become obama's pipeline. >> yes. >> you're a democrat. >> i'm a democrat. i'll tell you what, this is one of the most remarkable stories i think that has not been covered. i'm so glad you're covering this. our president, my beloved president, has said he wants to be this climate champion. you heard that. beautiful speech he gave at the inauguration. brought tears to my eyes. people all around the world. but then what happens? we say we're going to do this pipeline. this pipeline is a very, very interesting thing. first of all, it's a foreign corporation that's saying it's going to take land from american famers. when you point to that bitumin, that is the problem for america's farm la