secretary chertoff and president bush tried to do it.ight now, there appears to be a bipartisan coalition around immigration reform. let's be clear -- the job of the secretary of homeland security with regard to securing borders would be easier if the united states congress would forget about partisanship and come up with a broad based, comprehensive immigration plan. the story ends right there. [applause] >> secretary chertoff, your president bush paused point person on immigration -- bush's blight person and immigration. your in the key meetings. there was a big effort made. now we're in a new push. what was learned? >> this is to follow up on the point tom made. i used to struggle with this -- there is a resistance to recognizing that things have gotten better. i'm not want to tell you that we have a perfectly secure border. if you look at a series of different metrics over the period of the last 10 years, there has been a steady improvement in terms of operational control of the border and in terms of the net flow. we need to continu

the chertoff administration? you've got a book. >> i have not written a book. [laughter] >> yet.thank all of you out in live stream land. they did to my colleagues who made this possible. i like this 10th anniversary background we have here. thank you for coming out so early. thank the three tenors, three secretaries for a fantastic conversation. [applause] thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> coming up, "washington journal." >> one of the things i don't mention the oak but always grabbed me was a report in the hope consulting report of one of the focus groups. they interview a guy, i think his name was mark, and he encapsulated the mentality pretty well. he said, i don't do research because i know that charities are going to do some good. where i put my time in research is things like products. i am buying a microwave, i would do research. i do not research charities. that is the prevailing ethic among the owners -- among donors. all charities are not alike. there are good ones co

the chertoff administration? you've got a book. >> i have not written a book. [laughter] >> yet. thank all of you out in live stream land. they did to my colleagues who made this possible. i like this 10th anniversary background we have here. thank you for coming out so early. thank the three tenors, three secretaries for a fantastic conversation. [applause] thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> a look at congress this week. on the agenda, work requirements for welfare recipients. also work on a measure aimed at streamlining federal job training and retraining programs. a watch the live on c-span. the senate returns monday at 2:00 p.m. eastern. later in the week, a deal to fund the federal government for the rest of the current is called year. funding runs out march 27. the houses already passed the resolution. . follow the senate live on c- span 2. president obama will make several trips to capitol hill to meet with lawmakers from both parties. tuesday he will meet with senate demo

michael chertoff at the supreme court to delay justice william brennan is now chairman and cofounder of the chertoff group is more behind the scenes, made the department someone to ask you about the maturing of dhs is a bureaucracy. it took the defense department 50 years. some people in this room remember initially the service secretaries were very powerful. they tried to impose a pentagon authority that didn't work. we had unquestionably powerful secretary of defense. where is dhs not evolution? >> when i took over and have been better a little under two years, tom had done a great job, but it was an amateur department and a lot of the processes that you're used to the department of justice where he worked for many years are simply absurd. it was a fully fleshed out way to manage schedule or briefing or press are things of that sort. so there was a lot of feeling out the frame. one advantage we have a dod didn't have, which is we didn't take a couple of existing pieces and put them together. in the short run that made it more difficult. it also meant the entrenched way of doing bus

now chairman and co-founder of the chertoff group. he go in and was more behind the scenes and made the department work. i wanted to ask you about the maturing of dhs as the bureaucracy. it took the defense department 50 years. some people will remember that initially the service secretaries were very powerful. they tried to impose the pentagon authority. unquestionably powerful of defense. where is the chest and that the evolution? here is dhs in that evolution? >> in a lot of the prophecies that you are used to, it was simply actions. it was not the way to manage a schedule or briefing or press or things of that sort. there was a lot of showing to be done. we did not take a couple of existing pieces and put them together. there was actually are reshuffling. that made it more difficult, but also meant the entrenched way of doing business, which i think is the way defaced it at the pentagon, was not really present because no one was in any trenches. everything had to be built from scratch. that gave us the opportunity, which i know wa

michael chertoff. melissa: causing one of the worst nuclear disasters in history. now japan's government is looking to revive its atomic energy industry. back then it provided dirty% of japan's power. today only two reactors are back in action. despite all of that, my next guest is bullish. spencer abraham. a former u.s. senator in michigan. thank you so much for coming on the show. what is sentiment like towards nuclear in japan today. >> i think it is changing as time goes on. i think you are seeing the initial decision to curtail nuclear power. i think japan has realize it does not have a lot of natural resources. if it does away with nuclear, it will have to import a lot more oil and natural gas and other items and the much more dependent on trade to keep its energy sector going. i think they are slowly deciding that does not make sense for them. i think it is an encouraging sign. melissa: and fax, they cycle through brief prime minister's and not time. what is the damage like these days on the ground? >> it is still in the stage of, you know, being measured. i

michael chertoff, former department of homeland security secretary, one of three joins us now. secretary, nice to have you back on the program. >> good morning. jenna: just initially what's your sense of how sequester is affecting our national security? >> well as everybody knows the problem with sequester is not so much the amount of money being cut as the way which it is cut. it is evenly across the board without regard to priority what is is more important and what is less important. with some flexibility i think some of the damage here would be mitigated but the way it is playing out now you have to cut equally from programs you can frankly afford to do some cutting from and also from those that are very important to our national security. jenna: one of the reasons that secretary napolitano said there were some of these illegal immigrants being released because it had to do with where the money was being cut. you were secretary of the department of homeland security when the bush administration's controversial catch and release program was happening. you ended that program.

these other machines were put in -- i think chertoff was his name -- a billion dollars of these machineshrough there, didn't detect -- >> what about the dogs? dogs could have smelled that -- >> i don't know. i don't know about dogs. i think as far as technology goes, and also the big p, profiling. we couldn't use the profile word. >> shouldn't we profile? >> absolutely. i'm looking for a terrorist that wants to hurt americans. i can talk to somebody who -- a little white irish girl and i said, did you pack your bag? no, hi boyfriend was around. and what's your boyfriend's name? abdul, what i'm trying to say is you got to be -- >> what about military? all those military people coming back who need jobs? wouldn't they be better tsa agent inside. >> i was talking to former senator scott rogers. he had a bill that was up front there to bring the military people in there. get rid of these other ones that are not qualified, and bring military people. they'd be courteous, the understand the job and they'll formulate this into a professional tsa instead of the one we have. >> we have to go in 15

i was firing off letters to the president and to chertoff and to our delegation. so when i came in, we said, look, we're going to focus on that, and we'll shut that down. and so we've had from its peak to now i want to say a 75-90% reduction in apprehensions along that arizona/mexico board. border. and, you know, at some point public perception begins to change back, in other words, that more and more people are saying, yeah, there is security down there, the rule of law is being appreciated, and now, you know, when you live in a border state, you recognize that you need an immigration system that really works. because people will go back and forth. families are on both sides of the borders. people live in the united states, work in mexico, vice versa. so that's the kind of system you want to have where you really have a good seasons of who's leaving -- a good sense of who's leaving, who's coming, where they're going, how long they're anticipated to stay and so forth. >> [inaudible] so people talk about arizona becoming a blue state or a purple state, but the fact

first bert means the chertoffs. armed with itineraries suitable for a dream treatment. these? >> reporter: he recommends hitting disneyland on weekdays, tuesdays and wednesdays are traditionally the least crowded and consider staying at the grand californian resort which has an on-site kids' club that doubles as child care. >> they will have the kids worn out so they go to sleep when you get home. >> reporter: giving him a chance to root for his angels at angel stadium. dream trip number two, hilton head, south carolina, it's also home to pristine beaches but has world class golfing and fine dining. bert recommends flying into savannah, georgia, instead of the local airport. that can save as much as $100 a ticket and bert also says, the family should look into renting a house on homeaway.com or islandgetaway.com instead ef checking into a hotel. >> you save money by getting your own groceries, you have your own breakfast. >> reporter: to save money here bert recommends booking coach airfare 24 weeks in advance. but don't rule out a first class ticket. >> there's some gr

and michael chertoff continuance that tradition during his time as secretary. i think the last four years as dhs 2.0 where we were building on the foundation that they had laid where we were getting a better and a more mature sense of risk of what our value added is of things like the intelligence community and really began building a work force to sustain the department over time. as we head into president obama's second term i think we are moving to the dhs three-point no. we want to be agile and flexible because the threats are evolving so quickly. we want to make sure that we are taking care of the fundamentals particularly in areas like counterterrorism even as we expand to address new and rapidly growing threats such as death threats to our cyber networks. so a lot is going on in the department in this regard. if i might i will mention a few particular issues. one is cyber. we did a work force analysis last year brought in on a voluntary basis i might say a lot of experts in the private sector among other places to look at what cyber skills we need in our

she was joined by former secretaries of homeland security tom ridge and michael chertoff. they addressed a number of topics, including immigration and the impact of sequestration on the homeland security department. and the house will be back in just a moment. it is expected back in at 6:30 p.m. the eastern for a vote and general speeches, and later this week work expected on a bill to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year. current funding runs out on march 27. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] be in order. pursuant to clause 8, rule 20, the unfinished business is the vote on the motion of the the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. pitts, to suspend the rules and concur in the senate amendment to h.r. 307, on which yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 307, an act to re-authorize certain programs under the public health service act and the federal suit and cosmetic act with all-hazards preparedness response. senate amendment. the spea

mike chertoff continued that tradition during his time as secretary.i think of the last four years as dhs to play no where we were building on the foundation they had laid, getting a more mature sense of risk, what our value days. .. so a lot is going on at the department in this regard. if i might i will mention a few particular issues. one is cyber, rapidly growing. we did a workforce analysis last year and brought in on a voluntary basis i might say a lot of experts through the private sector among other places to really look at what cyberskills we need in our department, what we are missing, what are the gaps and where we need to go. the presidents budget has consistently put more money into cyberand the budget that was adopted last week also does the same thing. it has an anomaly for cyberin there. i spent a lot of my time working through the arrangements and what are our relations with the private sector? how do we organize ourselves with the nsa and the fbi where where -- who is doing what so a lot of time being spent organizing ourselves even a

he is now president of the chertoff group. please welcome charlie allen. [applause] >> and thank you very much. it is a great pleasure to be here. discovered -- gave a great speech and hard to follow that wisdom. about my personal recollections of 1973 war. i think it will be very interesting. i do want to thank the cia historical collection division for classifying of documents, commentwhich i hope to at one time. i am also honored to be here with many of my friends for people i work with many years ago. i could talk about all of them and name all of them, but i want to say i am especially honored to be part of a symposium that features dick covar, who taught me a lot about critical thinking, writing, and intelligence analysis. this is very much a personal account for what to some seems to be a very distant history. accurately with relevance what occurred back in 1973 is very hard. if there are any inaccuracies, i know that he will certainly correct them. let me explain my role at the time. the cia in 1950 time -- 1958. i advanced to the elite of this occ