. >> bret: north korean, the threat from al-qaeda and cyber attacks from possibly russia, china or iranl talked about today at this threats of the world hearing up on capitol hill. we're back with the panel. charles? >> look, i think there are two kind of threats. the ones that are the long-term ones that are targeted at us. and that would include, of course, al-qaeda. sweating around the world -- spreading around the world, though the core al-qaeda is diminished. the ideology, murderousness remains unchanged. the second is the cyber security, an issue we never suffer in pearl harbor. we can manual it but we are not sure what it would look like. apart from the long-term threat. yeonpyeong and china many -- pyongyang longer run is the immediate threat to world peace. paramount one and one that slipped from the consciousness is iran going nuclear. it was a year ago when the secretary of defense, panetta said that by six months ago, israel would already have attacked iran. when the prime minister spoke at the general assembly he had a cartoon bomb and said we are going to reach critical mo

incarceration in the world dwarfing the rates of even highly repressive regimes like russia or china or iran. but again, this can't be explained simply by crime or crime rates. no. no. during that same period of time that our incarceration rates increased exponentially, crime rates fluctuated; went up, went down, went back up again, went down again. and today as bad as crime rates are in many parts of the country, nationally crime rates are at historical lows. but incarceration rates have consistently soared. mostnologists and sociologists today will acknowledge that crime rates and incarceration rates in the united states have moved independently of one another. especially black incarceration rates have soared regardless of whether crime is going up or down in any given community or nation as a whole. so what explains this sudden explosion in incarceration? the birth of a penal system unprecedented in world history? if not crime and crime rates? well, the answer is the war on drugs and the get tough movement. the wave of punitiveness that that washed over the united states. drug convictions

leaders of china and russia take an approach different than the united states on issues related to north korea, syria and iran. all of those nations have close relations with either china or russia. president xi's next stop on his tour is africa. in south africa, he will attend a summit of the brics group of emerging economies, including brazil, india, russia and the host nation. he wants to bring the block closer together so it can exert more influence. in tanzania, in the republic of conga, president xi will work on the natural resources needed to feed china's economic engine. analysts say the chinese leader is being strategic with his first trip abroad. they say he is trying to strengthen ties with russia and emerging economies to give china more global influence in a world where the united states plays a leading role. takafumi terui, nhk world. >>> investigators looking into this week's cyberattack against south korean broadcasters and banks are withdrawing a claim they made early on. they initially said a malicious code came from an internet address in china. now they say that's not the case. a computer virus triggered a massive failure at three broadcasters, includi

banks or is being killed for fraud or terrorism or money laundering or if iran does the understandable thing and killing banks hers or china recently some banks are suddenly all that's to your being terrible that's taboo they can't kill the bank stirrers it's an example of stockholm syndrome people being held captive by banks fall in love with their hostage takers the banks toure's but making jokes about themselves getting murder oh that's hilarious pup was speaking to stockholm syndrome and falling in love with their captive in japan they often fall in love with blow up dolls right because they don't have any human emotions and they're very simple they don't demand anything they just perform a function for you and i think that's where our friend michelle luck has gone with this headline robots don't commit suicide and all their robot advantages robots don't eat drink demand coffee breaks or protest working conditions and they certainly don't commit suicide so misha saying that this is a good thing that the c.e.o. terry foxconn in china which produces most of this i phones and many other electronic products is replacing a

banks are being killed for fraud or terrorism or money laundering or if iran does the understandable thing and killing bank stirrers or china recently accounts of banks are suddenly all that's to being terrible that's taboo they can't kill the banks it's an example of stockholm syndrome people being held captive by banks fall in love with their hostage takers the banks but making jokes about themselves getting murder oh that's hilarious pup was speaking to stockholm syndrome and falling in love with their captive in japan they often fall in love with blow up dolls right because they don't have any human emotions and they're very simple they don't demand anything they just perform a function for you and i think that's where our friend michelle luck has gone with this headline robots don't commit suicide and all their robot advantages robots don't eat drink demand coffee breaks or protest working conditions and they certainly don't commit suicide so misha saying that this is a good thing that the c.e.o. terry foxconn in china which produces most of this i phones and many other electronic products is replacing a lot of the wor

banks or is being killed for fraud or terrorism or money laundering or if iran does the understandable thing in killing banks hers or china recently some banks are suddenly all that's being terrible that's taboo they can't kill the bank stirrers it's an example of stockholm syndrome people being held captive by banks fall in love with their hostage takers the banks toure's but making jokes about themselves getting murder oh that's hilarious pup was speaking to stockholm syndrome and falling in love with their captive in japan they often fall in love with blow up dolls right because they don't have any human emotions and they're very simple they don't demand anything they just perform a function for you and i think that's where our friend michelle luck has gone with this headline robots don't commit suicide and all their robot advantages robots don't eat drink demand coffee breaks or protests working conditions and they certainly don't commit suicide so misha saying that this is a good thing that the c.e.o. terry foxconn in china which produces most of this i phones and many other electronic products is replacing a lot of

banks are being killed for fraud or terrorism or money laundering or if iran does the understandable thing in killing bank stirrers or china recently killed some banks are suddenly all that's to your being terrible that's taboo you can't kill the bank stirrers it's an example of stockholm syndrome people being held captive by banks fall in love with their hostage takers the banks but making jokes about themselves getting murder oh that's hilarious pup was speaking to stockholm syndrome and falling in love with their captive in japan they often fall in love with blow up dolls right because they don't have any human emotions and they're very simple they don't demand anything they just perform a function for you and i think that's where our friend michelle luck has gone with this headline robots don't commit suicide and all their robot advantages robots don't eat drink demand coffee breaks or protest working conditions and they certainly don't commit suicide so misha saying that this is a good thing that the c.e.o. terry foxconn in china which produces most of this i phones and many other electronic products is replacing a lo

it up in space or blow up something near it to nudge it and just nudge it over into france or into iran or china countries could have a big complaint about that. >> a huge complaint. tom foreman, thanks very much. up next, ten years after the u.s. invasion, iraq still very much being ripped apart by bombings. two dozen bloody attacks today alone. pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, you will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. anti-depressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not for children under 18. people taking maois, linezolid or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, wer

martha: we've had very little cooperation from russia in china, in syria or in iran for that matter.u so much. always good to talk to you. bill: very interesting when he says about missile defense. the president is going to israel next week. and you saw the last conflict with gaza how successful israel's defense shield was. martha: absolutely. bill: jon scott rolls your way in 12 minutes but now he is with us. how are you doing, jon? jon: i'm doing well and it's friday, bill. how about this. a bipartisan push in the senate to get something done, that is pretty rare, main here they want to build the keystone pipeline. we will talk to the two principles about what they hope to accomplish. also if you could ask the president's spokesman anything you wanted, what would you ask? we'll find out when jenna speaks to jay carney. also, big speakers up today at the cpac conference. we'll keep an eye on that. more of that bizarre videotape of jodi arias alone in an interview room. why does neither side intend to introduce it in court. our legal panel on that. 40 years of the ten most wanted lis

or iran. it is not just a north asia problem but a global one. >> we need to talk to china in a specific way andre either a friend or not and with us or against us. but china has so far ignored concerns from the united states at this point. what makes you think they will really listen to what the u.s. has to say about this? >> it is it a problem because there is it a incomplete leadership in chin a. military in beijing is more powerful and that undercuts the ability to work with china. we have a leverage over the chinese last year their merchandise purplace was 136.3 percent of all trade surplumpts and that means they had deficits with the rest of the world and run a surplus against us. that gives us leverage. even if we think that there is turmoil in beijing, we have to use every tool we have. >> when it comes down to it. it is all about the money for china. on the other hand, things are going really bad in beijing in terms of the politicings and becoming more assertive and helping north korea allis and selling them mobile launchers and we really need to work with china. but to the point we hav

from a missile or ballistic mechanism point of view, we've been surprised. china went nuclear, russia, north korea, perhaps iran been surprised time and time again our intelligence services got it wrong. >> heather: let's move beyond north korea and what do you think is the lesson we need to take from what's going on now. you mentioned north korea and ties to syria. >> we know in 2007 that the north koreans actually sold a nuclear react are to north korea, and syria would have nuclear weapons today if israel hadn't decided in 2007 to strike that nuclear reactor before it went active. so it's a terrible situation, we could be face ago syria today where there's a fight between iran and hezbollah on one hand and al-qaeda on the other side and could be fighting over the nuclear welcomes. north korea's proliferation is a serious concern and that is something i think that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. >> and north korea and iran specifically? >> there's an extensive cooperation going on between north korea and iran today. we know that a senior architect of iran's program and witnessing a north korea nuclear test,

or chemical agents. >> sean: let's look at the bigger picture though. and north korea, china, iran. >> i'm with you. >> sean: russia. >> go ahead, i don't want to run out of time on this, here is the bottom line, if we wanted to stop the north koreans from being able to build nuclear weapons and the means of delivering them and the iranians from getting their hands on the same technology, we could do it. we have never imposed the kinds of unilateral sanctions that say if you do business with iran or north korea, you cannot do business here in the united states. this administration could and should do that as a last step, a last resort before we resort to the use of arms. >> sean: let me show this video because the north koreans released it today. not only are they threatening to nuke the united states. now they're putting out videos where they're showing all of this weaponry and there you go, right at the u.s. capitol, they show the u.s. capitol being blown up, juan. what has he done, and what has he said to the russians flying over our air space, and what about the cyber attractio

iran and china, and arms smuggling? >> well china and iran have had a very durable partnership and it's not just small arms, not just these man-pads ordefense systems, but it's also nuclear weapons technology and also through third parties like north korea and pakistan we've seen a lot of nuclear technology go to the iranians from china this has been a partnership that's gone on for more than a decade and it's a very dangerous trade. >> elon what is the affect on iran's attempt to build a nuclear weapon? >> no, i think the attempt has been pronounced. if you talk to knowledgeable proliferation experts in the u.s. government they'll tell you that the type of corruption that china is providing to iran has a tremendous affect on iran's nuclear progress. if that cooperation was stopped you would at least have a temporary, significant slow down in iran's march towards the bomb. the fact that china hasn't really reigned in these actors, a lot of whom are state connected if not state controlled speaks volumes about how china is following the letter but certainly not the spirit of the international efforts to usual iran's nuclear drive. jenn

or band. in the spotlight once again oscar winning movie argo has outraged iran which is planning to sue over hollywood fearing mangieri. all change in china as the new party prepares to take control all eyes are on whether the revamped leadership can keep the growth going to surpass america's economy a few years. a contentious referendum that saw the folk in islands choose to remain british brings to light the story of another island as residents have no say when britain deprived them of their land. it is one pm in the russian capital you're watching r t with me marina joshua welcome to the program now a full audio recording of bradley manning telling a military court why classify data to weaken leaks has itself been leaked despite a core ban manning is heard accusing u.s. army of not valuing human life in iraq and comparing troops to children torturing and with a magnifying glass now let's discuss this in more detail with tom barton here to tell what exactly did he say. well knowing the full audio is about over an hour long so there's a there is a lot said in this hearing we've taken a couple of edited excerpts from some strong language

campaigners have pointed out the role played by russia, china and iran because they're supplying the government force there is and hoping the arms treaty will stop orre will be a way to stop those transfers taking place. as we've seen with the u.k. and france speaking about the lifting of the u.n. arms embargo and whether to supply, it could open a can of worms in the negotiations. many states called for the a.t.t. to actually include a prohibition of arms unless authorized by governments. an oddity that wouldn't happen in the syrian case and could make things a lot more complicated in the next two weeks if that issue is brought up again. >> one of the big players is asia. it is a huge market for the arms trade and becoming increasingly militarized. how do disputes from north korea affect the trade? >> i think in the asian market, what we've seen is china and india, two major regional powers, has major importers there and south korea as well and singapore. what we're seeing are countries seeking to obviously boost their own national security forces but also the desire in those countries to develop their own arms industry. many of the items we're se

to derail iran's nuclear program besides it's hard to imagine given the tough economic competition that the united states would have no interest in infiltrating china's networks for one reason or another both american and chinese leaders continue to shake hands and speak of fruitful cooperation at official meetings such real world optimism is undermined if not totally negated when it comes to cyberspace and given reports of mutual cyber attacks intensifying in the last six seven months as well as beijing changing the man at the wheel it seems that only in competition between the superpowers will remain fractious if not downright dangerous. china's new leader officially taking the reins of power as beijing completes the long process of a once in a decade transition world keeping a close eye on who will lead the rising global player an economic powerhouse with the new leadership already announcing a military spending boost professor joseph chang from hong kong city university says it gives a strong indication of where china is heading given the fact that china aims to become a major power and be in a position to defend its territories and its own for the overseas interests it wi

to derail iran's nuclear program besides it's hard to imagine given the tough economic competition that the united states would have no interest in infiltrating china's networks for one reason oranother both american and chinese leaders continue to shake hands and speak of fruitful cooperation at official meetings such real world optimism is undermined if not totally negated when it comes to cyberspace and given reports of mutual cyber attacks intensifying in the last six seven months as well as beijing changing the man at the wheel it seems that only the competition between the superpowers will remain fractious if not downright dangerous. russia says arming syrian rebels would be against international law after western powers drop growing hints about providing military a few minutes a look at how being for broad affects the bloody syrian conflict. hundreds take to the streets another night of anger in brooklyn over a deadly police shooting of a teenager stay with us for that and more here on r.g.p. . but first he is seen by many as one of the world's most renowned whistleblowers but an enemy of the state by the u.s. government now soldier bradley manning can be heard in his o

china. that countries like iran, is a different situation. united states might be willing to do things to of iran that it would not be willing to do the china. host: the consensus in tweet or give us a phone call. -- you can send us a tweet or give us a phone call. we have a line set up for those of you in a third party. i know you were not part of those closed door sessions but if you could special chelate -- if you could speculate what they are telling members of the senate committee -- guest: i would guess the united states has good intelligence on what is happening in cyberspace, particularly on the attributions side. that information can be hard to come by. certainly in the open world it can be hard to trace back a cyber-attacks. there are ways of doing it but it can be difficult. my guess is the intelligence community has a lot more information on who is doing what. host: let this go to mark joining us from florida on the independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. how feasible is it for an attacker to alter data? for example, placing a technical flaw in military blueprints or sabotaging tie -- or sabotaging scientific research? guest: it is possible to do

china will ratchet down the situation. because north korea has nuclear arms, there's concern that they are working hand in hand with iran. that is another aspect of the discussion that we can have and whether ormpact on what happens in iran while we're trying hard to make sure they don't get nuclear capability. >> russia and china in the past historically have been allies or sue allies of north korea. how has that dynamic changed? >> china is going through a troubled leadership transition and because of that the people's liberation army has become a lot more powerful. they have been long-term friends which means that china is not going to probably help us in this case. >> what do we know about the relationship between north korea and iran? >> they sell everything they make to the iranians. nuclear technology, you name it. so this is a partnership that has gone on for more than ten years. >> the stealth bombers that flew from missouri on thursday, a very public display, what kind of message are they sending to north korea and how confident are they that this is a crisis that can be warded off? >> craig, they are torn between wanting to roll their eyes and shrug their shoulders and think this t

or the government of iran i will put my money on the two cities first. i would rather they have and go on that than what is part of the general argument. u.s. and china or los angeles and shanghai, turns out the mayor of los angeles reached out to shanghai to solve transportation problems in a way the u.s. and china, that is the answer to that. barnaby spring asks an important question. chapter 11, chapter 12 is global parliament. chapter 11 is civil society and social movement. going into that an important chapter about role of social movements that are in that chapter along with other discussions including occupy wall street and other more recent movements that have had an impact. those are part of the synergy. i thought you wouldn't let me but you found by was doing it would taint your reputation. i want to add one thing. barnaby didn't say, barnaby was an actor and artist who became a teacher and educational innovator because he believed he got the answer, education can make a difference, it can be part of how we confront the deterioration of democracy and we haven't talked about it today but with social movement and social society and change in

china. is that like that or something different? >> the u.s. does engage in a lot of sports diplomacy. you saw last week, the u.s. wrestling team was in iran warmly welcomed. what officials say is this is totally separate, if you look at ping-pong diplomacy all these years ago, there were openings between china and the united states. president nixon had already decided he was going to go to china, engage the chinese. if you look at what kim jong-un is doing, these type of propaganda events are more basketball, public events. he doesn't really want to talk to anybody. what they say is he is not really interesting and engaging. he is just interested in his own survival propaganda for the north korean people and they feel dennis rodman is really allowing himself to be used because he's going for his own publicity, for money. they said this is really not the way to go, but you know, it does make you wonder if you look at what's going on between the u.s. and north korea right now, u.s. is leading countries of the united nations pass some sanctions for its latest nuclear test. where is that going to lead the u.s.? it needs to think about a new p

reexamine whether or not we ought to step back from the polyof reunification with the help that as north korea misbehaves more it will drive china to help and step in. >> chris: and iransident misplayed this also from the beginning. he had a chance to destablize the regime and missed it. >> chris: during the election in. >> in 2009. we get hints the u.s. government has been active taking steps behind the scenes with computer viruses to slow this up. one year to get a nuclear weapon is really not a lot of time and there will be one moment of vulnerability when all of the materials are brought together in one place to begin to make a weapon and i hope to god the united states and the israelis have the ability to know when that moment is and to deal with it. >> chris: interested in the president saying we don't want to cut it too close. seems we are close right now. the interesting thing, joe, about all this is that when american presidents go to israel and again this will be obama's first trip there as president the top issue is always the prospects for peace between the israelis and the palestinians. nobody is talking about that in any serious way now. >> know, and i d

or else" and it has to be credible. one of the problems we have right now is that iran doesn't seem dissuaded from its current path. its primary enables, chinadissuaded and our allies in the region don't seem assured. i think the combination. martha: i'm sorry for interest rupgt. if you'r interrupting. you say the sanctions haven't worked. president bush said the same thing that all options were on the table. where do you do from there? what posture do you take after that. >> i think all options need to be on the table but they need not be extreme like an iraq-style invasion, and continuing to talk and doing what we know hasn't worked. we chose not to support divisions who wanted to counter the leaders pursuing these dangerous weapons. we know there are actors in the region who might of their own might want to shape developments in iran and the broader region, like i said with syria. we have not sent a clear signal whether we would even consider sanctioning them if they took actions to support those who counter these forces. a lot of middle ground is yet to be defined. ultimately it's up to the president to say, what do we seek and what do w

iran and china. they have been exposed publicly for attempting to gain access to undermine our defense and economic and criminal terrorist organizations continue to actively pursue and exploit bush's capabilities with little resistance or consequences. despite my concern on white house policy, the department is beginning to rise above the gridlock that is thought to underline the pentagon's reach. i'm happy to applaud general alexander for him and his team and what they have accomplished in developing the foundation necessary and i will talk about the conversation you and i had. my concern over the future is to make sure that you are there long enough to understand the complicated issue. certainly more must be done in the resources must be allocated. i am pleased to see the defense only mindset. i think we need to get beyond that so we can understand that. it is going to have to be pursued. so under the sequester, every department will be subject to the highest level of scrutiny. the threats we face are lined and are emboldened by her dysfunction. every dollar we spend should be maximized and those going towards nuclear deterrence and missile defense and cyber. that is what is the most significant part of the hearing t

in africa iran and hezbollah are expanding their terrorist and criminal networks in places like senegal and gambia. in asia, be it china, north korea or smaller countries like malaysia, the iranian/hezbollah conspirators are outpacing our ability to constrain them. so far u.s. effort toss combat the expanding threat have fallen short. sanctions are necessary, but they're not enough to counter the expanding activities as hezbollah and the irgc. despite several international pressures, the e.u. has flat out refused to declare hezbollah a terrorist group. this is too bad. this would pave the way for additional sanctions. if western leaders continue to allow these actors to engage in a global campaign of terror without some repercussion, a dangerous precedent will be cement hezbollah -- will be set. hezbollah is not going away. the it was even more -- it's even more troubling to imagine what the iranians might be able to do if they're allowed to make nuclear weapons. the united states must develop a comprehensive strategy on their own to confront these activities of hezbollah and iran. i'll now yield five minute toss the ranking member, m