so, there is -- >> elaine warren, city attorney's office. on the way this ordinance is written, if a project is subject to dr and a hearing is requested in front of the planning commission, the approval the project by the planning commission after such a dr hearing is what would trigger the appeal period for filing an appeal -- >> i get with this legislation. i'm asking the current rules we follow. >> under current procedure from the first approval, which we have -- our office ha advised, if it's a dr project, it's the dr approval by the planning commission. ~ has until the project is finally approved and there are no further administrative actionses associated with that project. so, for a dr project, that typically would be once either the appeal period where a building permit has run, [speaker not understood], or if an appeal is filed with a building permit, it would be after the opportunity for a rehearing, after a hearing in front of the board of appeals has expired. or they have taken it up on rehearing and they have finally decided tha